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mlippo Inner circle Trieste (Italy) 1227 Posts |
Hello,
I am rather new to this forum and this might've been addressed already in the past. In that case, I apologise. Anyway, I know this trick (I've got The Card Magic of Nick Trost book). The effect is nice, no difficult techniques. Lots of people here talk about it and yet I have never dared doing it. The reason? Won't people suspect something fishy when you display all the 'different coloured cards' in that 'funny way' and ask to examine the set (which cannot be afforded, of course)? Especially if you've just shown them how good you are at ribbon spreading a whole pack of cards on the table in such a neat fashion?? I am afraid to use the Marlo Subtlety here and then have the secret somewhat given away. I'd rather keep that technique for another occasion where it is less obvious ... I'd like to know your experience on this. Thanks |
mdspark Special user 784 Posts |
You are thinking too much. Just do it without hesitation, without guilt.... AND don't do it unttl you are without guilt and
without hesitation. |
John Jerde Regular user 192 Posts |
Listen to Mdspark.....The human mind is not smart enough to catch on.
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mlippo Inner circle Trieste (Italy) 1227 Posts |
Thanks for these replies.
Please don't get me wrong. I am quite experienced in card magic in general. I am not able to do hundreds of sleights, nor hundreds of tricks. After coming back to magic seriously after many years, I think I have the brains to prefer fewer tricks but done well. I also started performing for 6-10 year-old children, trying to avoid the classic children's magic. And packet tricks are welcome as long as I do not use regular cards, but blank faces with stickers on them. Oil and Queens (Roy Walton) done with coloured M&M's cards works! I like packet tricks and usually I like to finish clean or as clean as possible. Italian audience is maybe not the easiest. Often they do not watch you performing for the pleasure of seeing an artist doing something nice. They accept a guitar player or a singer as a virtuoso, but a magician is there to swindle them. So they MUST see how things are done and want to examine everything. This is why I always use a regular pack of cards, seldom use gaffs or duplicates unless they are 'public' (Chicago Opener, for example). Anyway, thanks again |
Steven Keyl Inner circle Washington, D.C. 2630 Posts |
There are a lot of packet effects that allow for the spectator to examine them at the end. One place where you can find several is in the works of John Bannon. He uses the term "fractal" to mean a packet trick which is completely examinable at its conclusion. Here is a book of his with 7 fractal packet tricks:
http://johnbannonmagic.com/megawave.html Here are a few more individual tricks that may be of interest to you: http://johnbannonmagic.com/fractalcardmagic.html Finally, if you do a search here on the Café for examinable packet tricks you will find a lot of additional recommendations as well.
Steven Keyl - The Human Whisperer!
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mlippo Inner circle Trieste (Italy) 1227 Posts |
Steven,
I know John Bannon's packet tricks. They are awesome and you usually end clean! I ordered (in July) Royal Scam, but it hasn't arrived yet. I'm afraid it's gone lost somewhere ... I've written to him about it and he was very kind to reply to me. |
bblumen Special user Baltimore 987 Posts |
Darwin Ortiz on the Olram Subtlety...
"A smooth tempo and a confident attitude are critical in performing the Olram subtlety, but properly executed it will go by any lay audience."...Darwin Ortiz At The Card Table, pp. 118-119.
"Lulling the minds of your company is more important than dazzling their eyes." Ed Marlo
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NicholasD Inner circle 1458 Posts |
I've never cared much for the eight card brainwave. However, after seeing Howard Hamburg's handling on his recent Sessions DVD, I'm a convert. His subtle use of the Olram Subtlety is excellent.
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Jonathan100 Loyal user 292 Posts |
It was Eugene Burger who said that magic is a wonderful thing it allows you to be without guilt! Of course I may be paraphrasing the original quote a bit but the idea is don’t be guilty of what you are doing, most of magic has this “guilty moment”, the trick is how to disguise it by being natural. I used to do eight card brainwave in walk around settings and people were simply amazed that the card they chose had a different back, they didn’t want to examine the packet, there was no need to, they enjoyed the magic and that was that.
Today I don’t use this trick anymore as this falls into mental magic, where as, one can get similar outcomes by using more of a mentalist approach. Sincerely yours, Jonathan |
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