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Setting The Record Straight: A message from John Shaw & Alex/Lady Diabla

Dear fellow performers:
Unfortunately I have been forced into writing this message to set everyone straight about what is going on concerning a person calling themselves Sideshow Outlaw. When we were first made aware of this we just shrugged it off as stupid internet gossip and payed it no mind as we do not post on forums nor belong to any. That was until the references started to point a finger in the direction of Alex. Some of the statements as to who this person was were vague but then some of them became more specific. This individual obviously knows most of you and us and is well aware of the goings on of many sideshow performers and where they are. I have my suspicions as to who it is, but unlike some here I am collecting evidence so that I know 100% before making slanderous statements about them. This has further strengthened my feelings about many in this business and that is why we do not socialize in these internet groups. The infighting and the backstabbing is just rampant and quite frankly disappointing on many levels. I have reached out to several of you online directly who I have a personal relationship with to explain our side. Some of you responded and were open to the facts and the truth while there still remains some that have disregarded the message completely. I have sent a request to the Café asking that this persons account be removed but as of yet it remains open...I wonder why that is? After doing some investigation of my own I have found that there is another individual that has been feeding into the rumor mill that it is not just Alex but myself and one other. I have many feelings as to why this person would say this but it tortures me that I have to take time out of my day to deal with this childish problem. I have always tried to maintain good relationships with everyone in this business and give respect to everyone no matter what their skill level or so called "status" within the community. I just want to make this VERY CLEAR, neither Alex or myself have posted any of the inflammatory statements or any of the misguided advice on the Café under the Sideshow Outlaw name or any other. We concern ourselves with working on our show and performing and have no time to sit on an internet forum and sling mud at people just to amuse ourselves. I invite any and all who would like to discuss this further to contact me directly via email or phone as we have nothing to hide and have no need to. We would have posted this ourselves but due to email restrictions on the Café our current providers are not allowed. I hope that this clears up this ridiculous situation and that you all direct your anger and disparaging comments for the person who deserves it.

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Regards,

John Shaw


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After speaking with John, I feel I must post this...

I was very wrong for posting my statement as to whoever this "sideshow outlaw" is. I do believe John and Alex, that it is NOT her. I was told, very "matter of factly" by 4 people that it was and posted, rather snarley and haphazardly, without going straight to the source first.

Since I publicly posted against Alex, I would like to humbly post my apology to her. She is a fantastic performer and I am very sorry for my assumptions based on mis-information I was given. I'm not going to go into the details as to why I felt it necessary for my original posting, as John and Alex have been made aware of why and they are the only ones who need to truly know.

I am very sorry Alex (Diabla). I was told wrong and publicly hurt you, my friend. All I can do now is ask for you to forgive me. I don't normally get involved in forum drama, but when a good mutual friend emailed me, asking what the deal was with the lie that involved me directly and then I was given incorrect information by multiple people, I felt something needed to be said. However, once again, I was wrong and am very sorry.


I'm sure whoever this "sideshow outlaw" is, will probably post back to this and quite frankly, I don't care. I'm not going to look back at this thread, as I have said what needed to be said. My only hope is that this person might come clean and admit who they are, but I highly doubt they will.


Later gang,

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After talking to John, I too apologize, and was under the same deal as Ses. I was contacted by 4 people privately who told me it was Alex. And Stig sure didn't mind running off her resume as his own, either. In my opinion, he should be banned from the Café. He caused good people a lot of grief.

I copy and pasted his apology here from another thread.

'Ok since this has gotten stupidly out of control now Ill be clear. This has been 1 person the whole time. I have switched identities many times on this account depending on what I was searching for. Now you started drama with the wrong person. Sorry to Sia and Ses for lying about who I wasnt but Im coming clean so everyone leaves innocent people alone. This is Stig and has been the whole time. Nobody else. You don't like my opinions fine. Just take them out on me . Nobody else was involved in this.'

Wishing John and Alex all the best in love, life, and business,
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I never ran off Alexs resume as my own Sia. The obvious was we both did a lot of the same shows together. You pegged me right away so it must have been obvious to who I was. don't try blaming this on me. had I known publically rumor was spreading in private it was a specific person I would have stopped that. Besides asking about a sword swallower in alaska theres nothing I wrote that I can see why you specifically think I would be Alex. I asked that because she told me about some guy there claiming to be the oldest so I asked. The second I caught on you were accussing her I put a stop to it and when it got this far gone I came clean so people stopped it. So don't put the blame here on me. People lied not me. Im sure the person or people who spread that rumor wont tell me but I wish someone could tell me what was said that made them believe it wasnt me.
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Stig, you deleted the post (and many posts) that showed what you did. The one in particular, where you claimed to stomach any household chemical, met Ward at 8, grewup in the country, and more. I let John know the content of all the posts you deleted to try and save your ass. I pegged you from the start, yes. You denied it. When I posted 'her name is Kitty and shes a female' you replied with references to my man's act. NOT denial. Back peddling does you no good. If you are coming clean, bloody well do it. I save posts. I hope Alex and John have written you off, as I've heard this isn't the first time you've messed with people. Please crawl back under your rock and accept you're to blame. You're word means nothing to the good people here.. if I sound angry, it's because I AM. apology or not. Youre name is garbage.
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John & Alex are still very close friends of mine. I never lied. grew up in the country on a farm land. I met Ward at 8 possibly 9 at the cuyahoga state fair. I know this because by 10 my parents were divorced.We were all there. I taught blockhead to a girl just as young years later and if you check out Alex in florida he was doing it around then as well. I believe he goes by alexzander now. I used to drink chemicals believe it or not. hell I sill drink shots of bleach at certain things to be a smart ass. Now Kitty was a name ive only heard 1 person call her.I didn't know 100% at first who you meant. Ive never seen your mans act and know nothing of you. I have no idea what you claim I took from his act but ive never seen it.
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Theres a reason you have a handicap tattoo on the back of your neck. Go away.
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Are you saying you have a problem with handicapped people. sorry you jumped the gun and spread false rumors before asking the person you accused.
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To paraphrase: 'I contacted Alex and Stig and Stig thought it was funny people thought s.o. was him and Alex was upset' ...that post was long ago. You knew what was going on. You lied. You only came clean when John made you last night.

Im done with you.
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I said it wasnt stig and you ended it there.I said it wasnt alex and it kept going. That isn't my fault. Somebody kept it going for whatever reason. bring it up to them. That person wont talk to me about it. Like I said John and Alex are friends and I revealed myself so people would finally stop blaming the wrong person. I never lied about my past though and if I keep getting accused ill keep defending the truth.
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My words have been picked through to the point things keep being sidestepped and back tracked. Im still waiting for anyone to message me and explain what I said that mislead anyone to believe it wasnt my real background. I challenge anyone to be clear on that. What I think happened is somebody started that rumor and people fasely believed it and spread it and wont confess they did. Its over now and its been cleared up.
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I have a very important question: who the kcuf is Stig?
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Im guessing he is the guy people love to hate because he tells his really feelings on stuff. He speaks the same in person as he does anywhere else. He is the guy that did everything here he says no matter what anyone else thinks. He is the guy that never mislead anyone else to believe he was anyone else. I talk randomly so I don't lose my thought at the moment. I am the guy who doesn't care what trophies you got or how much money you make doesn't earn respect if you are arrogant. Well with the exception of Mayweather. He is arrogant and cocky but its in a commical sense and has backed up his claims in the ring.Different story there though. I never wanted to do shows yet always seem to be pulled into them by others to help out last minute. Body modifications was always more my thing and for that alone it always has been the connection into sideshow. I might be hated because I don't see eye to eye with many but I have never done wrong to anyone that didn't deserve it. Hope that helped.
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On 2011-09-10 23:17, Stephon wrote:
I have a very important question: who the kcuf is Stig?


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Yo Blackguyver...Might I suggest you slip on over to the "Grand Illusion" section...The Folks over there will be able to help you correct your one "Magic Act" that obviously Failed!...
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OK, so we all know how to deal with Outlaws, hang em. Unless they come clean. Job done.

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On 2011-09-11 14:41, Kondini wrote:
OK, so we all know how to deal with Outlaws, hang em. Unless they come clean. Job done.

Ken.


Yo Kondini..
Blackguyver came in DEMANDING others to come clean, and yet He was a White Guy imitating a Black Guy (poorly)undercover at the request of a Member!...So, How do we deal w/ that???...Let this be a Lesson for all...NEVER bring in a Heating & Cooling Cat, Get Rocco over on the Tilty-Whirl, not only will he do the Job right, He will never finger ya either!!!...

P.S. This reminds me, what ever happened to Stoneunhinged????..
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