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Looch Inner circle Off by 3362 Posts |
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On 2011-09-22 05:19, looch wrote: Don't get annoyed, look at what I wrote initially
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mastermindreader 1949 - 2017 Seattle, WA 12586 Posts |
Thanks for the title, Gary. But the position I originally applied for was Dean of Martin. Ain't that a kick in the head?
An aside to Rich - You've probably notice that in this thread I made no reference to your performing skills. It's only fair that I tell you that I think you're very entertaining. (I watched a YouTube video of you performing "Security") I also feel that with your creative bent you have much to offer the fraternity. If, in the future, you ever require my assistance with crediting, idea bouncing, etc., please feel free to contact me. As a token of good faith and to end this unfortunate episode on a positive note, I'd like to send you a copy of my "Journey Through the Fourth Dimension." I will send you a PM telling you how to contact me if you are interested. Oh- I almost forgot! Welcome back to Artie Fufkin whose wit and wisdom has been sorely missed. BIOYA Artie! The Rt. Rev. Dr. Bob Billet King of Moldavia Dean of Mentalism & Arch Bishop of the First Universal Church of Knowledge |
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Amirá Inner circle MentalismCenter.com 5131 Posts |
Ok.... the issue about 4DT and your Psychometry effect is resolved.
But what about the other routines Rich? I really don't want to create more destructive attack, rather a constructive discussion. The "Lie to Me " effect is Maven´s Kurostuke The OOTW is Lorayne´s Impromptu OOTW "Undercover" is "Word in a Million" and the other effects deserve crediting as well for subtle ideas that you use (Unwritten, Visions, etc)
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Godzilla Inner circle Tied & Untied Witches on 5316 Posts |
I too add my name to the list to give apology !
I am sorry Rich ! Gary
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Billy-one Inner circle IOWA 1028 Posts |
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I think this whole episode is bizare, becuse I have known of Mr. Fergusons work in close up magic, yet his mentalism is "new" to me. I would have never considered purchasing any one of his DVD's, however; due to the allegations I have started to pay more attention to him and his mentalism. I watched some clips, almost purchased his dvd (for curiosity regarding the "incident"), and read all of his responces to memebers of this forum. My knowledge and experience with Mr. Ferguson has evolved. First, I didn't really care one way or the other; as his ideas on close up did not allign with mine. Then, I was concerned taht he stole 4DT and given it to a more "casual" market. Funny side note, living in smallish town Iowa, the only other "magicians" I encounter are those spawned from the ellusionist website (that scared me becust 4DT is so much smarter and impossible to reverse engineer with only a baseline of hobbiest knowledge), so when someone knows a double lift becuse they bought one DVD I often cringe at what they may know (another side note: hobbiest that gleam inside information from web based retailers often lack the class to let the performer perform). Now, that I have given Mr. Ferguson more consideration, although the reasons may have been with a negative tint; I can now say that his performances of mentalism are well within my consideration! I perform, at the moment, close up mentalism for people who act as the gal in his SECURITY clip. I was impressed at how he handled this real life situation, becuse some times these "sassy" spectators can crumble less experienced magicians (also read mentalists). My point? I hate to try to spin a positive out of a negative, just for the sake of doing so; but I really beleive this episode might be better for Mr. Ferguson then it would seem....I for one see him in a better light. In regards to the other lapses in crediting, that's another issue that I think will be corrected in time. |
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kannon Inner circle BCN 1025 Posts |
Quote: On 2011-09-22 16:16, Amirá wrote:
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Artie Fufkin Special user 853 Posts |
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On 2011-09-22 16:14, mastermindreader wrote: You're an expert at the passive/ aggressive back-peddle Bob........as are many of the regular Penny posters when they get called out for bad behavior. BTW, does't BIOYA reference "blow it out your a.s.s? That's a bit rude for a guy claiming to be a "professional".............but on second thought, I'm not surprised. What a bunch of sad-sacks. |
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Sandstar Loyal user 232 Posts |
Old Church Ladies have nothing on the "mentalists" of Penny. In fact I think Old Church Ladies would have been much circumspect. This entire exhibition has been a pitiful pile-on. It makes one ashamed to be part of this "community."
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Artie Fufkin Special user 853 Posts |
There is no "community".......it's little more than a group of school-yard bullies looking for somebody they think is weaker than they are to pick on.
The Penny forum has been ruined by a pack of unemployed internet hacks pontificating their mentalism expertise to each other..........certainly nobody else is listening to them. |
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John C Eternal Order I THINK therefore I wrote 12941 Posts |
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On 2011-09-21 19:18, J.Prager wrote: Is it cheaper than Bob's? |
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JohnWells Inner circle The Southern Wild 1791 Posts |
Not really.
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mastermindreader 1949 - 2017 Seattle, WA 12586 Posts |
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On 2011-09-22 20:27, Artie Fufkin wrote: But you are Artie! Why so humorless? Didn't you notice the smiley face after the BIOYA? |
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Artie Fufkin Special user 853 Posts |
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lunatik Inner circle 3222 Posts |
This whole fiasco could have bee averted if Bob went directly to Rich and haggled it out over email or phone once he heard that his idea was stolen. This topic did not need to be created until ALL avenues were exhausted to resolve any disputes. Or does is it just easier these days make a topic alluding to theft.
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Steve Haynes Inner circle Southeastern United States 1119 Posts |
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seadog93 Inner circle 3200 Posts |
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On 2011-09-23 03:42, lunatik wrote: But then I would have absolutely no idea that Ben and Jerry's was selling Schweddy balls! I'm going to have some Schweddy balls this Sunday, and I'll make sure to be ready to share them with my wife... No one can resist my Schweddy balls! http://www.hulu.com/watch/116203/saturda......ec-intro
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Amirá Inner circle MentalismCenter.com 5131 Posts |
Bob never claims that Rich copy his idea, he just ASKS if anyone knows more info about this.
I help him to resolve this issue.Now comes the other big part of the real ripoffs with the effects that I mention before.
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Decomposed Eternal Order High Desert 12059 Posts |
Glad this is all settled. Now back to the Benji thread.
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Sid Helkule Inner circle Australia 1481 Posts |
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On 2011-09-23 03:42, lunatik wrote: Actually, the original thread containing accusations of theft was started in "inner thoughts" by Jose... so Bob publicly sorting this issue was the best action to take IMO. He let people know what was going on as he HAD to. He didn't start the original topic. His sharing of his schweddy balls are an entirely different matter. |
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Paul Shirley Inner circle Melbourne, Australia 1206 Posts |
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On 2011-09-22 20:27, Artie Fufkin wrote: Artie!!! Man... its been a while. Weekend release?? Ruined? Unemployed internet hacks? Come on man... we don't come down to McDonalds and hassle you while your mopping the toilet floors... leave us be. Where is our friend J.D? He would have something to say about this for sure... or maybe he is too busy monitoring the non existent traffic on his dumb blog. Of course... that has nothing o do with you does it Artie? You from N.Y.C? I will be there in a few weeks... would LOVE to catch up. |
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