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Al Angello Eternal Order Collegeville, Pa. USA 11045 Posts 
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Lobo
You certainly have a flowery description of the plundering pigs.
Al Angello The Comic Juggler/Magician
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LobowolfXXX Inner circle La Famiglia 1196 Posts
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On 2011-10-10 11:58, Al Angello wrote: Thanks, Al. Thought about you over the weekend...the closing of the Blue Horizon is a shame.
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley. "...as we reason and love, we are able to hope. And hope enables us to resist those things that would enslave us." |
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Al Angello Eternal Order Collegeville, Pa. USA 11045 Posts
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Lobo old friend
The sport we loved 30, and 40 years ago is dead now. My friend who wrote for Ring magazine in unemployed too.
Al Angello The Comic Juggler/Magician
http://www.juggleral.com http://home.comcast.net/~juggleral/ "Footprints on your ceiling are almost gone" |
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Scott F. Guinn Inner circle "Great Scott!" aka "Palms of Putty" & "Poof Daddy G" 6586 Posts
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It seems to me (a conservative, pro-life, right-wing religious nut Republican who loves Ronald Reagan and thinks its a toss-up between him and Teddy Roosevelt as best President of the 20th century) that in America people should have the right to peacefully protest whatever they want to, whether their agenda be conservative or liberal, specific or unspecific, focused or "sweeping." I don't begrudge abortions rights activists their right to peacefully assemble or to lobby for legislation, and I reserve the right to assemble to protest legalized abortion. I don't begrudge gay rights activists their right to protest DOMA, and I reserve my right to assemble to support it.
I am not a Tea Party "member" nor am I an "Occupier," but it seems to me that any American can choose to be in either group and peacefully demonstrate as he or she sees fit. Bickering on a magicians' website and calling each other morons and idiots certainly isn't going to bring about a workable solution. But then, some of you will call me an idiot and a moron, or "naive and misguided" for posting this. I simply think that debate is a good thing, but name-calling adds nothing constructive.
"Love God, laugh more, spend more time with the ones you love, play with children, do good to those in need, and eat more ice cream. There is more to life than magic tricks." - Scott F. Guinn
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Al Angello Eternal Order Collegeville, Pa. USA 11045 Posts
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Scott
I think you are a combination of all those bad things, and I completely agree with you.
Al Angello The Comic Juggler/Magician
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critter Inner circle Spokane, WA 2653 Posts
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On 2011-10-10 12:30, Scott F. Guinn wrote: :thumbsup:
"The fool is one who doesn't know what you have just found out."
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21263 Posts
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On 2011-10-10 12:17, Al Angello wrote: SERIOUS question here for you Al. Are you an MMA fan at all? I personally do not like it as much as I would like to. What I mean is I REALLY enjoyed the science of boxing and not so much wrestling. MMA has an awful lot of wrestling especially of late. It is not so much my cup or tea. It is cool and they are athletes and such, but not a fan here. I was just wondering where you stand. AND hopefully have a discussion about something interesting between us for a change, and not heated and angry. I MISS the old days of Howard Cosell and the Fight Doctor! The build up to the big fights and such. Leonard, Hagglar, and Duran trading the title. I think MMA also suffers from over exposure. Just curious where you came down on it. Not saying one is right or wrong, just my opinion.
Danny Doyle
<BR>Semper Occultus <BR>In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act....George Orwell |
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EsnRedshirt Special user Newark, CA 895 Posts
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Quote: That's my point- who expands business when there is no reward (in the form of increased profit from additional sales due to higher demand?) Like I said- as a performer, if you're booking shows, or have high prospects of booking shows, you're more likely to buy new illusions, hire additional stage crew, etc. If you're not booking shows, you're a lot less likely to buy props and hire people, since the risk of not recovering the investment is much greater.
On 2011-10-10 10:59, LobowolfXXX wrote: If we want to use tax rate as an incentive, we need to reward companies for expanding locally, rather than overseas. We also need to help level the playing field so it's not so biased towards larger corporations over small businesses. (Yes, I'm advocating reducing regulations.)
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21263 Posts
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Do you understand that this is EXACTLY the opposite of what your party and president do and want done?
Danny Doyle
<BR>Semper Occultus <BR>In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act....George Orwell |
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critter Inner circle Spokane, WA 2653 Posts
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On 2011-10-10 13:23, Dannydoyle wrote: Have you ever seen Anderson Silva fight? That dude is an extremely technical striker. Let the record show that I wear my Muhammad Ali Adidas jacket every day.
"The fool is one who doesn't know what you have just found out."
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LobowolfXXX Inner circle La Famiglia 1196 Posts
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Had a few intervening posts...this one was in response to ESN's last.
Clearly, if you don't have a good or a service that people want to buy (or are able to buy), then there's no expansion. However, aside from the presence of a reward, the amount of the reward matters a great deal, as well. When you say the reward is "in the form of increased profit..." regardless of where it's from, a big part of calculating the amount of that profit is the tax rate - how much of the revenue is going straight to Uncle Sam? If the expense (including tax rate) eat up too much of the revenues, then some decisions that would otherwise create jobs may not be made. I agree that the American government should incentivize American job creation, not general company growth. By the same token, the government should not incentivize illegal immigration, in part for the same reason (but for many other reasons as well). Exporting jobs to non-Americans and importing non-Americans to do those jobs here both have pretty much the same effect. At least in the former case, the American taxpayer isn't picking up the tab for the workers' families education, emergency healthcare, etc.
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley. "...as we reason and love, we are able to hope. And hope enables us to resist those things that would enslave us." |
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Al Angello Eternal Order Collegeville, Pa. USA 11045 Posts
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To me it is like dog fighting without the dogs. I belonged to a police boxing club when I was a little kid, I used to go to local gyms to watch the afternoon sparing. I went to the blue horizon when I was the only teenage white boy in the auditorium. I used to watch the Friday night fights with my father. So I grew up with boxing, and I can't watch the new stuff. It's all hype if you ask me.
Al Angello The Comic Juggler/Magician
http://www.juggleral.com http://home.comcast.net/~juggleral/ "Footprints on your ceiling are almost gone" |
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LobowolfXXX Inner circle La Famiglia 1196 Posts
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On 2011-10-10 13:52, EsnRedshirt wrote: You have a potential gig...it's 3 miles from home, and it pays $200 for one hour on a night when you're not doing anything anyway. If you take it, you'll be hiring an assistant (let's say the $200 is after you pay him). There's a little setup and breakdown time, and you have to get to the gig a little early, so overall, you're spending about 3 hours from home back to home. In one case, the income tax rate is 10%, so you're keeping $180 of the $200. Do you take the gig? In another case, the income tax rate is 80%, so you're keeping $40 of the $200. How about now? Your assistant's job depends on your choice(s).
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley. "...as we reason and love, we are able to hope. And hope enables us to resist those things that would enslave us." |
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critter Inner circle Spokane, WA 2653 Posts
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On 2011-10-10 14:02, Al Angello wrote: And, apparently, one can't teach an old dog new tricks. ;)
"The fool is one who doesn't know what you have just found out."
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Al Angello Eternal Order Collegeville, Pa. USA 11045 Posts
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Critter
Yes I'm too old to change. When I was a young man there was two boxing publications, and each of these magazines had a top 10 list of boxing contenders in every weight class. There was also a plethora of up coming, and over the hill boxers that they covered every month. Major cities would have at least one fight card a month featuring regional champions. It simply was a different era.
Al Angello The Comic Juggler/Magician
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LobowolfXXX Inner circle La Famiglia 1196 Posts
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On 2011-10-10 12:17, Al Angello wrote: Al - Respectfully, let me say this about boxing. And you know I say this from somebody who is a true aficionado. Not as old as you, but a boxing historian with a love and knowledge of the sport. Every era has a handful of truly great boxers. Best-of-the-best guys. What has made boxing particularly great at times is that at those times, many of those fighters were in or around the same weight class at the same time. When you think of great boxing eras, what do you think of? Maybe the 80s, with Leonard, Hearns, Hagler, and Duran all in or close to their primes, all fighting each other. Maybe the 70s, with Ali/Foreman/Frazier trading the title. For the guys who were old-timers when you were still a school kid, it was Tony Canzoneri, Jimmy McLarnin, and Barney Ross. We're in a bit of a dry spell in boxing, but there will again be a time when there are 3-5 all-time greats all in their primes, all ready, willing and able to fight each other. And when that happens, boxing will again be flying as high as it ever did.
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley. "...as we reason and love, we are able to hope. And hope enables us to resist those things that would enslave us." |
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critter Inner circle Spokane, WA 2653 Posts
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I miss the Toughman contests. They're illegal here now.
My Grandpa was an amateur boxer and one of his best friends owned the Lilac Boxing Club here in Spokane. I wanted to box there but since I had taken karate next door he said he didn't like karate guys in his boxing club because they always kicked his bags. He also said I was too tall and skinny and would just get my ribs broken. But I still went to his son's fights with my Grandpa. Funny thing is that his son got knocked out in a barfight by a roundhouse kick. My Uncle was a bouncer at the time and he watched it and made fun of him for years about it. My Uncle was also an all-state wrestler and an assistant wrestling coach. I've been trying to get into the boxing club at my school here but their email sucks and there's never anyone at the gym when I go. I am a fan of MMA too though. I don't think enjoying one precludes enjoying the other. I like Thai boxing and Sumo too.
"The fool is one who doesn't know what you have just found out."
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EsnRedshirt Special user Newark, CA 895 Posts
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Quote: Lobo, you know you're oversimplifying things; tax rates don't work that way. Corporate tax rates in the US work in a similar way to how individual tax brackets work- you pay x% of the first $50k. Any income exceeding $50k is taxed at a higher rate- y%. Any income beyond $75k is taxed at a higher z%. So whether I take that job depends on how much money I've already made. And if I want to do the show for the publicity and potential revenue it generates. There's always more considerations than simple profit. Besides- there is no 80% tax bracket.On 2011-10-10 14:06, LobowolfXXX wrote:
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Al Angello Eternal Order Collegeville, Pa. USA 11045 Posts
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I did not miss one round of the 1976 Olympics games?
My question is who will test the next great champion?
Al Angello The Comic Juggler/Magician
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critter Inner circle Spokane, WA 2653 Posts
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The mob?
"The fool is one who doesn't know what you have just found out."
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