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Magic-Daniel Inner circle Denmark 1328 Posts |
Hi.
The coin boxes from Moonlight Magic Productions looks absolutely stunning. My question is, how do these compare to other boxes out there, of the likes of, David Roth, Jim Zee etc? Does the boxes from Moonlight hold shells? Can you rest coins on the edges? Thanks, Daniel |
Dougini Inner circle The Beautiful State Of Maine 7130 Posts |
Hi Daniel!
Here is what they say on their site: "Unless otherwise specified, our coin boxes are designed to be used with U.S. half-dollar-size coins, the boxes holding four coins in a stack. They will also accommodate an expanded shell. Our coin boxes are made from solid brass, and, trimmed with wood...a tricky process to say the least. They are bottom-heavy, and, have a rim that easily accommodates the balancing of a coin. We will be making these boxes available in many types of wood species in a design that will compliment the other items we manufacture in both sets, as well as, separate boxes. They will come in our labeled box along with a protective carrying-pouch for sets, and/or, separate boxes. Available Now!" Then, in the Dollar Size Boxes, they say: "New Dollar-size coin box sets are being designed and built and availability will be announced here, as well as on the RNTII web site. They will have the same appearance as our Half-dollar-size boxes and sets are being built to accommodate three Dollar-size coins, as well as sets accommodating four Dollar-size coins. There have been many requests for these dollar-size coin box sets and we are excited to finally be able to offer them to the magic fraternity. Be sure to check back for updates." That is the best I can do for ya Daniel! Anyone else? Doug |
Dr_J_Ayala Inner circle In search of Vlad Dracul and his 2169 Posts |
I have Moonlight box sets in both sizes and they do indeed live up to the ad. These will function as well as any other Okito set, if not better in some aspects. They are quite bottom heavy, even though heavier bottoms are not at all necessary, merely makes certain moves easier to do for some performers. All of the s***ls that I have used in these boxes fit with no problem, and the rim is more than generous with its thickness in regards to rim techniques. These boxes are a thing of beauty and I would highly recommend them in either size - they are among my most prized boxes in my large and varied Okito box collection.
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mystre71 Inner circle martinsburg west virginia 1693 Posts |
These are boxes are beautiful. The one drawback I see is the possibility (depending on your routine) of dropping and cracking the wood.
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jazzy snazzy Inner circle run off by a mob of Villagers wielding 2109 Posts |
They are a joy to work with.
"The secret of life is to look good from a distance."
-Charles Schulz |
J-Mac Inner circle Ridley Park, PA 5338 Posts |
Beautiful boxes, but not true workers in my opinion. I have a very nice looking set but I can't use them in performance unfortunately. The increased diameter of the box itself makes the inside diameter of the lid very big, which prevents me from using the lid in most of the usual ways. E.g., with a normal Okito box you can lean the lid against the side edge of the box with a coin hidden beneath it, and then slide it onto the box, thus depositing the coin inside the box unseen. With the lid for this set the ID is too large to allow the same move. The wall thickness of the box is equal to that of a regular brass box plus the thickness of the wood lining the exterior, times two. So a coin no longer fits neatly within the lid. In other words the ID of the lid is almost 3/8" wider than a half dollar! Just doesn't work at all for me. Which is a shame, given how nice the set looks.
Thanks! Jim |
wandmgc8 Regular user Tennessee 140 Posts |
Hi Jim, and, thanks to all for the kind compliments on our coin box sets. Jim, yes, that was the greatest concern for me when designing the boxes... the absence of the ability to allow certain tecniques with the lid of which you speak, but alas...I couldn't ditch the project on just that issue, as, there are a lot of good folks already making good standard coin boxes. There was just no way around it, as, I was determined to incorporate the wood design. This is a good reminder that I should, as soon as I get the chance, post this drawback on the web site in the spirit of full disclosure so those considering a purchase can evaluate the usefullness for their particular routine(s). However, the lids are still good for a few things, such as an inertia move with a card, easy coin concealment, etc.
I'm very glad to see feedback about these, and, hope to continue to receive it so that I can evaluate possible improvements. Thanks again for posting your comments and compliments! Michael |
J-Mac Inner circle Ridley Park, PA 5338 Posts |
Hi Michael! Looks like life is treating you well there at RNT2. My comments weren't meant to say that the boxes are not usable at all - though it looks like that IS indeed what I said... duh! I started out meaning to say that you cannot use the lid like you can in some effects or routines. But I started the post, left my machine to do something, and then came back to it and just posted what I had there instead of finishing the darned thing as I should have done.
The coin box set is actually very usable for all effects in which you do not use the lid to "carry" a coin or to secretly put a coin into the box while appearing to simply put the lid on. There are many Okito routines that do not use the lid in such a way. Plus Michael's coin box set - at least the one I purchased - has three boxes plus the lid: a standard Okito box, a Boston box, and a slotted box. So my post above calling these not usable really refers to me only as I do tend to use the lid a good bit when performing with coin boxes. All other work though can be performed flawlessly - and will look a heck of a lot prettier than mine!! Thanks! Jim |
wandmgc8 Regular user Tennessee 140 Posts |
I'm really glad you brought up that issue Jim. I've been so busy making them, I really had forgotten about it. When I had a short routine years back, I did use a "lid-carry" move in it. But with the set I make now, that would be a difficult move at best. I was using a set I made without the wood, and, had knurled the edge of the lid to accomodate my rough shop-skin fingers. I don't believe anyone took your message the wrong way, least of all me. It's good info.
Speaking of knurled edges, I don't recall seeing any coin box lids lately with a knurled edge like that. I wonder if it is something I should begin making again, as, I remember it was very helpful to me for a sure grip. Any comments on the subject from anyone? As for RNT, Donnie is great to work with, and, if he has what you need, you can't go wrong with a purchase. Top notch in the wizarding world, and, I'm proud to be a small part of it. Happy conjuring!....Michael |
brockport New user 4 Posts |
Michael is a fine craftsman and one of the nicest and most conscientious dealers in magic. Having dealt with him numerous times on both coin boxes and wands, he has always been most concerned with customer satisfaction. As we know, this is not so common in our field.
He provides great products, great service and great value. People like Michael deserve our full support. |
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