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The Burnaby Kid Inner circle St. John's, Canada 3158 Posts |
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On 2011-10-14 13:04, JSeligstein wrote: You're going to get a lot of platitudes thrown your way about how to do this correctly (heck, you've already gotten most of the big ones), but honestly, a lot of this stuff is very context-sensitive. Good routining in general means dealing with suspicions before they come up, so that when they're in a position to act on them, it's too late. The fact that you've got several favourite packet effects that leave you dirty strikes me personally as problematic already. Choose one effect and focus your energy on it, and figure out how to make it as deceptive as possible, try to determine the opportunities to clean up, and try to figure out if there's something in the routine that basically screams "trick cards!" at the audience. Incidentally, if you look at the effect "2wenty1", I can't imagine a single intelligent person who wouldn't suspect trick cards. A lot of the advice given here, even if it's successful won't solve the problem of leaving the audience with a satisfying magical experience, because in that sort of effect the cards HAVE to be examined in order for the effect to register as legitimate. An alternative might be to set things up so that you give[?] them a great blackjack hand, which they press down on. Next, you take two lousy cards, and magically transform them into the cards they thought they were holding. At that point, they look at the cards in their hand, and during the resulting reaction, you've got the other gimmicked cards out of play or switched out before they can even ask to look at them, at which point it'll be too late.
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charliewerner Regular user 164 Posts |
First of all, you are not a real "magician", YOu are an actor acting as a magician...
Secondly, what you do are tricks, telling your audience you are not creating a religion. "you are not URI GELLER" Fourth, put your packet effect as your last routine, perform and say " enjoy your dinner " and walk to other table saying "you're paid by the hours, your boss would't like it" Third, what you did are called effect, if audience want to learn or inspect they need to pay for it.
"Seeing Joy, Sadness, Anger,Contempt,Surprise, Disgust,Fear on people faces are the motivation of my MAGIC" Charlie Werner (C.C.L)
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MeetMagicMike Inner circle Gainesville Fl 3501 Posts |
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? Did Fred Astaire stop halfway through 'singing in the rain' and hand out his tap shoes to the front row to try on? Quote:
Does B.B. King hand Lucille out for examination? No but Houdini certainly had things examined. I'm glad my Copper-Silver-Brass routine ends clean. I wish my Wild Card did. When I first performed Wild Card people sometimes wanted to examine the cards. As I got more confident and the routine flowed better this stopped and I felt very confident. Then one day some one just reached over at the end and grabbed a card and turned it over revealing the gaff. What an awful moment. Well I'm pretty sure I know what happened as far as audience management and it hasn't happened again. Ending clean IS a good thing. I wouldn't make it a requirement, I would have to give up too many good routines. Having things examined is something that can be an entertaining part of the routine. You don't have to give up all control. Hand them a cards and ask them a question or instruct them in some way. We all know that having the spectator remove the jokers is a good way to let them see that the deck is ordinary with out belaboring the issue. Insisting on ending clean means you give up too much but there is nothing wrong with wanting to end clean when possible. |
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DaveM Special user Germany 788 Posts |
I have a gadget called "Switch-a-roo" (not even sure if it's sold anymore) that allowed for seamless, instant switches right in front of the specs. I used it to instantly clean up "Ricochet", "NFW", and other packet effects.
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MagicJuggler Inner circle Anchorage, AK 1161 Posts |
A quick google search reveals that at least elmwood magic still sells them.
Wonderful gimmik though, absolutely invisible switch even though the cards are left in plain sight sticking out of your outer lapel pocket. My favorite use for it was to place the four aces in the pocket (ready to be switched) then pull out NFW and perform the trick with the jokers, then when the transformation occurs to show the aces and then show that the jokers have traveled to the pocket.
Matthew Olsen
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AdamChance Special user 656 Posts |
That switch-a-roo gimmick looks really cool... I might have to order one of those. I guess the problem is that I don't have too many shirts with a breast pocket.
I can think of a couple other ways to deal with this problem. 1) when you're done with the trick, put the cards away relatively quickly and move onto the next trick. if someone wants to see the cards, you should have a duplicate set of normal cards that you can pull out of the same pocket. 2) at walmart, they had a little section with a few magic tricks for kids for like $5, and one of them was a black plastic box with a black plastic piece that fits almost perfectly inside to make a false bottom... so people think it's just the bottom of the box, but you can hide a few cards underneath it.... then you close it, the black plastic bit flips to the other side, covering your gimmicked cards and exposing your real ones for inspection. It's kind of a pain to carry that little box around... but it makes for clean finishes for packet tricks. and it's good to put the label for the trick on the outside of the box. so you bring you packet trick out in the box, you put it back away in the box... if someone wants to see the cards, you open the box back up and hand them the real cards with your gimmicked cards underneath the false bottom. maybe there are better quality ones out there, but the ones from walmart seem to work alright I guess. |
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Alan Munro Inner circle Kentwood, Michigan, USA 5952 Posts |
Switch-a-roo is still made. http://www.elmwoodmagic.com/full/card-sw......1010.htm I know Russ and I didn't think he'd let that go off the market.
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