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Sorry Epoptika I worked at a homeless shelter and watched the homeless show up at any ner-do well demonstration. The clueless media would interview them as experts. It's all deception and the chunps buy into it hook-line & sinker. Who could afford to stay away from work for weeks at a time except the homeless or those on Govt. payouts? Get a clue pal.
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Well PAL, I'm sorry your community service stint was so unpleasant for you but I'm sure you were a very compassionate volunteer anyhow. Anyone over the age of 40 who loses their job in the current economy knows that it is going to be a very long time before they find another. (And yes, before you spout it, I know they're always hiring at Wal-Mart.) In the last two years my sister was laid off from her job at a major university (while tuitions went up and the dean got a raise), my brother lost his architect job (after 30 years) when his firm shut its doors, two close friends in Ohio lost their jobs, one in the telecom field and one in parks administration. My two friends both spent just shy of two years before they found jobs. My brother is still looking along with thousands of other architects and people involved in the building trades. I have professional friends who are retired and/or just work part time. I have worked in the hospitality industry for over 30 years but I primarily work nights so I, and my friends and family,and plenty of other responsible, hard-working people have plenty of time to spend hanging out with bums and derelicts waving signs on street corners. It is inevitable that the crazies will join any street protest and inevitable that the corporate owned media will focus on them in their coverage. They would have you believe that they are representative of the the protestors. They are not. If you bothered to go talk to these people (and I know you critics have not) you'd find you are indeed blowing wind.
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@ Devious; I love that. So true.
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Well PAL, I'm sorry your community service stint was so unpleasant for you but I'm sure you were a very compassionate volunteer anyhow. Anyone over the age of 40 who loses their job in the current economy knows that it is going to be a very long time before they find another. (And yes, before you spout it, I know they're always hiring at Wal-Mart.) In the last two years my sister was laid off from her job at a major university (while tuitions went up and the dean got a raise), my brother lost his architect job (after 30 years) when his firm shut its doors, two close friends in Ohio lost their jobs, one in the telecom field and one in parks administration. My two friends both spent just shy of two years before they found jobs. My brother is still looking along with thousands of other architects and people involved in the building trades. I have professional friends who are retired and/or just work part time. I have worked in the hospitality industry for over 30 years but I primarily work nights so I, and my friends and family,and plenty of other responsible, hard-working people have plenty of time to spend hanging out with bums and derelicts waving signs on street corners. It is inevitable that the crazies will join any street protest and inevitable that the corporate owned media will focus on them in their coverage. They would have you believe that they are representative of the the protestors. They are not. If you bothered to go talk to these people (and I know you critics have not) you'd find you are indeed blowing wind.


That Wal*Mart line rang true for me!
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Anyone over the age of 40 who loses their job in the current economy knows that it is going to be a very long time before they find another. (And yes, before you spout it, I know they're always hiring at Wal-Mart.)


Perhaps instead of looking for a "job" they should try starting their own business?

It was when I realize the reason everyone was going to college was so they could "get a good job" ... I dropped out.

I don't want a good job ... I want to own the company!

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As one street guy, I see Occupy movement as a right of of human expression, a united voice that is peacefully spreading their message as far as I see it.
As a busker No I would not consider passing my hat at an Occupy camp at least not for fat hats. I do see it as an opportunity to express, freedom of expression should be defended to the best of our ability.

For exampke, I don't understand or agree with buskers who would be seen saying they should not Occupy the street, That to me is bureaucratic nonsons and a contradiction of direct action.
Would I defend your right to expres that, your dam right I would, or at least I would hope I am brave enougth to

The more society's recognise our right to express the more chance will busking and such activities of art have a chance to evolve.
I fail to see why this pose any threat to any one.
My conclusion, will I get a fat hat busking around camps, No I don't think so.
If you asked about the bigger picture will it benefit me as communities embrace expression, Oh Yea, Oh yea, Oh yes it will.
Once a community/inderviguals realises it can express it self it shows in your show and in your hat.
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They (the protesters) are mostly a bunch of hypocrites that don't realize they are part of the 1% they are protesting:

http://www.fool.com/investing/general/20......-1-.aspx



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Waaaaay out of context. You can't compare the cost of living in the US to the cost of living elsewhere
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After reading this thread I feel like I need a shower...maybe I can go to a political site and read about magic.
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Waaaaay out of context. You can't compare the cost of living in the US to the cost of living elsewhere


Sure you can ... half the world's population is still cooking over an open fire. If the protesters truly want wealth distribution, then it would need to include re-distributing their own wealth.

And the $34,000 figure was calculated by World Bank economist Branko Milanovic who adjusted for "purchasing power parity", or as you called it ... the cost of living.

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Waaaaay out of context. You can't compare the cost of living in the US to the cost of living elsewhere


Sure you can ... half the world's population is still cooking over an open fire. If the protesters truly want wealth distribution, then it would need to include re-distributing their own wealth.

And the $34,000 figure was calculated by World Bank economist Branko Milanovic who adjusted for "purchasing power parity", or as you called it ... the cost of living.

-JoeJoe


How is it an issue how the rest of the world lives if our sovereignty does not extend across out borders? The last time I checked, taxpayer money addresses US interests. Your attempt to make the protesters appear hypocritical is flawed logic at best - not only is the idea of disparity across the globe a non issue to the US issues being protested, but you're committing a "Tu Quoque" fallacy. Do I suspect a Red Herring?

I am not defending these people. They should have focused on Wall Street involvement in government by protesting Citizens United and Washington lobbying (instead of requesting more handouts) to be taken seriously. Nevertheless, I have to point out your invalid argument. If you're going to attack a certain viewpoint, at least do it fairly and within context
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How is it an issue how the rest of the world lives if our sovereignty does not extend across out borders? The last time I checked, taxpayer money addresses US interests.
Sorry Doc but that is WRONG! American taxpayer money addresses most other countries interests and ignores our own. It's called "Foreign Aid" and if you look at the money, time, lives and ammunition we spend in Pakistan and Afghanistan supplying the Taliban and other terrorists you'll see.

This is NOT A POLITICAL comment, just looking at facts not making judgements
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On 2011-12-02 12:04, MagicDr wrote:

How is it an issue how the rest of the world lives if our sovereignty does not extend across out borders? The last time I checked, taxpayer money addresses US interests.
Sorry Doc but that is WRONG! American taxpayer money addresses most other countries interests and ignores our own. It's called "Foreign Aid" and if you look at the money, time, lives and ammunition we spend in Pakistan and Afghanistan supplying the Taliban and other terrorists you'll see.

This is NOT A POLITICAL comment, just looking at facts not making judgements


Either way it is political but everyone knows that's gonna be OK for you.
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http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/joble......235.html Another stinking whiner. Looking for a hand out and a free ride.
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I'm not going to get into this fray other than to say that those who think that the unemployed are simply lazy, looking for a hand out or a free ride should try walking a mile in the other Indian's moccasins before making such a prejudicial and broad reaching statement.

If you have employment, be grateful you do, and perhaps show a little charity towards those who do not.

For each layabout seeking to work the system there are at least five who genuinely need the help.

Of course, we *could* just all throw the undesirables like that into cattle cars and ship them off to unknown destinations while we turn a blind eye.

Much cleaner that way, no troublesome issues for our consciences or to debate on the forums. Just mysterious clouds of ash that drift down...

Why, wait a moment... I do believe that's been done before.

It's called fascism.

Check your facts before spilling your vitriol, people. The amount of intellectual elitism shown in this thread is staggering and more than a little frightening.
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Ekuth, no one is complaining about those who were laid off and are really trying to find work. The problem with the "occupy" people is they just gave up and now insist the the government support them. They seem to forget that those of us that pay taxes ARE the "government" that supports them.
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And again, Paddy, you reveal how totally clueless you are. I have participated in the Occupy movement and other pro labor/ pro working class movements around the country and can tell you that you are full of #@*%!!
Know what you are talking about before you start spouting off on important issues!

Have you ever read a newspaper in your life?!
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If you knew what you were talking about epoptika, you would realize that we tried "socialism" in the past ... and nearly half our colonists died the first winter. Capitalism was born out of the necessity for survival and it is the reason America is at the top of the world food chain.

And this article you posted is about someone looking for work ... which has nothing to do with the Occupy movement what-so-ever and is just a poor attempt to put a positive spin on your little protest. You are not going to fool any educated people with your sarcasm.

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Who is talking about socialism you blithering idiot?!
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And what the *#@% are you talking about anyhow?!. I am through with you fools. God help this country when people like you are allowed to vote.
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