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panlives
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Someone offers you a wager. He’ll shuffle an ordinary deck and deal you 13 cards. If none of your cards ranks above 9, he’ll give you a thousand dollars. Otherwise you must give him one dollar.

Should you accept?
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Depends, Are aces high or low ?
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No, it depends if he deals face down or face up and gets to choose which ones he deals that way.
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If HE is shuffling the deck, forget it! Smile
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Well, if he's offering a thousand dollars, then that's suspicious in itself. However, for the sake of 1 dollar, I'd probably accept. Seeing whether his false shuffles under pressure would fool me, would be worth the dollar itself. Especially as it could spark off a productive conversation about magic. If he knows how to do a false shuffle, he probably knows other stuff. Plus it will give me an opportunity to show him a trick and those opportunities are rarer than I would like.

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If he shuffles it sounds like an argument is about to start...

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Quote:
On 2011-11-24 19:44, Chris Henderson wrote:
No, it depends if he deals face down or face up and gets to choose which ones he deals that way.


I think you nailed it. Remember this is a bar bet.
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There will be always be at least one card over a nine in 13 dealt.
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On 2012-02-17 00:26, Rizzo wrote:
There will be always be at least one card over a nine in 13 dealt.


I assume that you mean that is a good bet because we all know that there are a lot of combinations where 13 cards can be combined and none over a nine.
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Accept only if you want to lose a dollar!
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I was going to be a wise guy and make the following post- "I just did it 1,000 times. 327 times I lost on the first card. 922 times I lost by the 5th card. In all cases I lost by the 9th card". But I took out a deck of cards and tried it a few times. In each case I did an (imperfect) faro shuffle, then cut the cards. All very fairly. On the 8th try I dealt 9 cards off the top and NONE of them were higher than a 9! However, I do think that is an amazing achievement! And I do think it would be VERY hard to duplicate. I would have NEVER believed it if I didn't do it myself! It's a bet that I would feel pretty confident in making if I was risking the $1,000. But you had better have the $1,000 ready just in case!
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From the phrasing of the question it seems that there must be a catch. As Acesover stated, it is a bar bet.
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The odds.
(A series where you choose from the number of nine and under (ace low) cards remaining.)

36/52 * 35/51 * 34/50 ... all the way down to: 24/40

Multiply all that out and you get about 1 out of 275 against. take the bet.

For ace high, the series starts at 32/52 and ends up totalling 1 out of 1828 against. Don't take the bet.
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