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erictan8888 Special user Singapore 517 Posts |
hi, read the advert on decked out and it sounds pretty amazing...
is it good? is it worth the money? not asking for the secret here, but does it use rough and smooth ? if it does, i would not buy it cause i hate tricks that use rough and smooth principles... sorry about that, but this is one reason why i never liked invisible deck or brainwave deck. thanks eric
"Fill you life with magic by making magic a part of your life." by eric tan.
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Steve Hook Inner circle Raleigh, NC, USA 1266 Posts |
Eric:
I think rough + smooth is one of the best principles in magic. Are you saying you don't like carrying an extra deck, that you don't like gimmicked cards, or that you just don't like R+S? If it's the latter, why? I'm asking because you may be missing out on some great routines, including the two you mentioned and one of my faves, Mental Photography. Then there is a whole body of work on partial-R+S. And then there are... Well, you get the idea. Just wondering... Steve
Like Bonnie Raitt said, "I miss Little Feat more than I miss being 8 years old." Thanks for the concerts + recordings, Lowell, Richie, and Paul!
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erictan8888 Special user Singapore 517 Posts |
hi steve,
i don't like rough and smooth cause: 1. the roughing wears out pretty fast and its terrible when you discover it only in your performance, and that means one of the pair of cards is going to slide out very easily, and your trick is exposed. 2. roughing will make your card seem much lighter in appearance, i mean they have this fading color look... this will cause unnecessary attention to be drawn to the card: i have spectators asking me why my card has colors that looked faded.... and i could offer no explanation. 3. with a rough and smooth invisible deck, spectators somehow can sometimes spot that the faced up deck contains too few cards. a very long time ago, the one of the first few times that i was doing invisible deck (or was it brainwave?), a spectator asked "why is it you have so few faced up cards? it looked like you are carrying lesser cards that a normal deck" i immediately closed up the deck and showed that the thickness of the side was very normal, and insisted that it was a normal deck. it is times like this that i find rough and smooth principle very prone to failure... i forgot to mention, but i also have mental photography... and its sitting somewhere in that locked drawer that i don't plan to open up... pls advise on how i should use R&S in my tricks... i have heard a lot of people writing invisible deck in their favourites list and as one of the tricks they constantly perform... i don't understand why i am having so little success with R&S... am i missing out the fun? please advise... eric
"Fill you life with magic by making magic a part of your life." by eric tan.
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Uli Weigel Inner circle Berlin, Germany 1478 Posts |
Quote:
On 2003-09-11 18:26, erictan8888 wrote: Maybe you're missing out the necessary study and practice to use these tools deceptively, since countless professionals and amateurs have no problems whatsoever using the R&S principle in their performances. Just a thought. |
Mistro Special user Canada 577 Posts |
Is it good? No, This is a terrible trick. I bought it a while ago and never used it once. Shame on JB for making me buy this ****.
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Review King Eternal Order 14446 Posts |
The deck is made with Hoyle cards ( which I like ) so if you're a Bike man/gal, you're out of luck.
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rayg1952 Regular user 200 Posts |
Erictan8888
If a spectator said that to me I would say to him you are absolutely right there are some cards missing, but you can see there still a lot of cards here and the cards are still in excellent condition, so what’s the point in throwing a good set of cards away does that make sense what do you think. I’ll bet you 95% or more of the time the spectator will agree with you. |
Lee Darrow V.I.P. Chicago, IL USA 3588 Posts |
Just use the line, "Well, I never DID play with a full deck!" and smile at the spectator. You get the laugh and take the heat off the deck in the process. In fact, when I do certain gaffed deck effects, I always use this line in the set up of the trick to make sure that everyone knows that the deck might be a few cards short.
Just a suggestion! Lee Darrow, C.H.
http://www.leedarrow.com
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erictan8888 Special user Singapore 517 Posts |
Thanks guys.....
just an update: its been over a year since I last wrote this post.... over this period, my magic has matured a little bit... hee hee and I have come to learn and practice much more, hence my experience with R and S can be considered to be improving.... certainly having more fun when compared to a year or so ago.... unfortunately, I still find myself avoiding R and S stuff..... dun know why, but maybe its just me.... cheers
"Fill you life with magic by making magic a part of your life." by eric tan.
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rayg1952 Regular user 200 Posts |
Erictan8888
If you like the concept of the Invisible Deck you can set up using a regular deck of cards, by forcing a card, it has its pros and cons it uses R/S on some cards and S/L on all the cards and you can repeat it 2 or 3 times with different cards and doesn't required any set up time, the pros are with the backs of the cards facing up you can spread the cards from one end to the other, with the face of the cards facing up you can almost spread the cards from end to end. the cons are the cards cannot be shuffled the spectator cannot say what his selected cards is. |
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