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DWRackley Inner circle Chattanooga, TN 1909 Posts |
The real “secret” for larger folks is to wear something that actually fits. Too many try to keep wearing what “used to” fit, or the other extreme, saggy-baggy. If your weight goes up and down (whose doesn’t?) BUY NEW CLOTHES THAT FIT!
I’ve been “husky” all my life, but after I became comfortably married, the fat really piled on (my wife is a fantastic cook!) A medical warning caused me to start turning that around. I’ve dropped 60 pounds from my top weight, feel much better, and I like the way I look now (that’s different!) But what matters most to your credibility is how well you fit (Hmmm, actually could take that many ways). Do you fit your clothes? Your persona? Your venue? People can tell when something doesn’t fit, even though they may not be able to put a finger on it.
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Paul Shirley Inner circle Melbourne, Australia 1206 Posts |
Its a valid question Billy.
Max carries his appearance, and character very well. Max is also the first to admit that his image has cost him work in the past.... and if we are talking about the same DVD... he is sat with Michael Weber who (Paraphrasing Max's words) "Looks like an accountant, yet is one of the busiest mentalists around." Its a personal thing. Suit, tie. Kaftan and strange bejewelled hats.... jeans, t-shirt and a waist coat. Find what you are most comfortable in... and is palatable to the audiences you work for... but most importantly, what ever 'look' you go for... Own it! Carry it with complete confidence. Just make sure you have a large enough pocket in your jacket/jeans for a copy of 13 steps |
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Godzilla Inner circle Tied & Untied Witches on 5316 Posts |
Stalk a Jogger ! (for weight loss of course!)
And,if you catch up to them,ask to see if you can borrow a copy of their 13 steps,and that is why you were following them !
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JAlenS Inner circle Utah 1526 Posts |
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On 2011-11-30 01:06, Godzilla wrote: lol Guys, this really does work. Appearance can be key dependent on the venue. PLUS, you can walk around with your shirt unbuttoned like CA http://www.beachbody.com/product/fitness......anity.do Try it. You may not like it at first but it works. I am not a coach or spokesperson for beachbody.com |
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voh002 Special user 547 Posts |
How you look is very importent. I don´t think the weight is the biggist issue. I think how you appare infront of and audience with your clothes, haircut and healthy skin and so on, is the most importent question. I was in an conferanse with Luke Jermey and Marc Paul and Luke pointed out that he couldn´t do any corporate work because of his look. Marc Paul by the way...
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phillsmiff Inner circle UK 1794 Posts |
I don't think anyone is saying that weight is the biggest issue, merely highlighting that it is an issue. If I had the choice of booking the slim scruff or the chubby guy in the Armani suit with the shoes you can see your face in, I'd definitely book fats. So, it isn't the most important issue, but from a cynical commercial point of view it's worth bearing in mind that there is an average-life-expectancy gain associated with weight loss and if you live and are able to work for an additional two years due to your weight loss then the simple act of losing weight has effectively earnt you your yearly income x 2.
Anyway, I know at least three UK mentalists who have lost quite a lot of weight recently and improved their look and have definitely felt their confidence in themselves improve - and these weren't guys who were shy to start with. My pal Doug Segal is almost unrecognisable now, and seems much happier for it. Doug is still physically imposing because of his height, and he 'fits' his look perfectly now. I don't think Paul Brook will mind my mentioning that he has lost weight because he is rightly proud of what he has accomplished, he has put a lot of work into his look and I got the chance to see him perform recently and he looked very comfortable in his skin. And Colin too, although where the five stone went from I don't know because he wasn't fat to start with. Of course it's easy for Scottish people to lose weight, they just have to set a one deep-fried-pizza-per-day cap and they are good to go. Phill
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bevbevvybev Inner circle UK 2672 Posts |
I base my entire persona on a fat dustbin man. Hasn't done me any harm.
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dusty Veteran user 352 Posts |
I'm in shape...round's a shape!
I could not agree more with the comments that how we dress impacts on how we are perceived. How believable is the "master of mind control" who clearly can't get his own head around weight loss for their own health. I can't brag too much, I could do with losing 20-30lb so intend making that my own personal goal, however Scotland can be cold this time of year and that extra layer of body fat might be natures survival tool. That's my excuse and I'm sticking to it.
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Scott Burton Inner circle 1131 Posts |
Coincidentally, I did very recently lose 30 pounds. I was already active (ran marathons for years) and many felt I didn't have much weight to lose but the difference was amazing. I had to buy a whole new set of clothes and my new suit fits me real nice and sharp for my gigs.
When people stare at us on stage for an hour or so, people take the time to make all sorts of conclusions and judgments about us - accurately or otherwise. How do you want to be perceived as a performer? Weight does play a part in how you are perceived. Perhaps this makes a difference to your own bottom line or perhaps it doesn't (hard to know for sure). More importantly, how would it make YOU feel knowing that you had control over your mind and body? I know it makes me feel great I've heard of people wearing jeans - even to corporate gigs. I'm still waiting to see a photo of someone working a professional gig in jeans. Until then, my personal opinion is that this wouldn't ever be a good idea. Even years ago when I also worked kids shows (fairs, day cares, birthdays, etc), I wouldn't ever think that wearing jeans would be a good choose. A obvious exception would be if you had a character that made it appropriate - cowboy, Criss Angel or David Blian type "street" look, etc. |
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Billy-one Inner circle IOWA 1028 Posts |
In regards to my jeans...lol,
I wear jeans becuse that's who I feel I am. Keep in mind, I don't wear jeans becuse I am a hard working farm boy..nor does it come off that way. I wear them becuse its my style. Also, the jeans are not bargin Wal-Mart (not that there is anything wrong with that) jeans.....they do show "where the money went", too anybody that knows fashion. However, I see the point of wearing slacks versus jeans...I really do. In fact, I often like wearing nice slacks versus jeans, but my persona doesn't really fit slacks. Perhaps when I get a bit older, given I'm thirty but still act like I'm thirtee....er, fourteen. And Paul.....I will get my next sport coat tailored to be able to fit Corrinda into one of the pockets, just in case I want to scare away an audience member that shows interest in mentalism Respect, Billy |
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Decomposed Eternal Order High Desert 12059 Posts |
Good point Scott.
Appearence and hygiene are very important with high end clients. SHow some pride, I mean what does a client see when an overweight, sloppy performer with wet pit stains walks through the banquet hall door? Push away from the dinner table now and then. I say this for one who does and can loose weight. I use to run marathons like Scott so a few miles here and there does not hurt me. Knees bad, buy a 20 dollar tramp from the mall and get with it!!! I value my attire and this year going with Armani sports coat, Jeffrey Bean new shirts, Giorgio Armani Belt and Ferragamo shoes (paid for with gigs). Its not for everyone of course but I attibute it to a new instilled confidence I have going forward into 2012. I think one of the things people overlook is shoes. WOmen will be looking at them I assure you. No need to spend a fortune either, there are so many places that sell designer attire at a discount. And as several said, being fit is so important, mostly for health. You will feel better being fit and this air of confidence will exude from your pores. PS: Ive worn the casual jeans and sports jackets and I agree, it really is not professional. I say this being a professional entertainer in Texas where jeans are so common, trust me, dress up for your gigs, it will pay off! G.
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Scott Burton Inner circle 1131 Posts |
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On 2011-11-30 05:02, Billy-one wrote: I have heard this before but cannot picture what this looks like. Do you have a photo to link to? I am willing to change my mind by seeing. IMO (as it stands before I am shown and corrected)...if you audience is dressed above jeans, then there is no way that you should have jeans. Not sure what "style" you are referring to. |
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phillsmiff Inner circle UK 1794 Posts |
If 'anyone who knows anything about fashion' can tell your jeans are fabulously expensive and deliciously tasteful, that does rather mean that 90% of the population will just look and see jeans.
That said, if you rock what you wear, and your customers are happy and come back for more, and everything fits with your character and performance style, then go for it. This art isn't homogenous, nor should it be. Phill
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Rocketeer Special user Westchester, NY 965 Posts |
Today is the one year anniversary of a decision I made to start eating healthier. At 257 lbs I'm 26.4 lbs lighter than I was a year ago. By mid June I was down to 240, but that was partially due to a medical emergency that saw me drop 13 lbs in seven days (not recommended).
I had hoped to lose 52 to 60 lbs by now but I really don't care. I'm not in a race. There's no deadline. Next year this time I'll probably weigh about 220 lbs. But remember, attaining a particular weight is not (and cannot be) a goal--it's merely a desired outcome. It's not a goal because there's no way to directly achieve it. My goal is to eat healthy and get some exercise every day. That way my goal wasn't a year away. I win every day I eat right and get some exercise. And as a bonus instead of having one "goal" that's a year (or six months or two years) away I have 365 goals I can achieve in a year's time. I'd rather have 365 goals I can directly achieve daily for a year vs. a single distant "goal" I can't achieve directly. (Similarly, there's no way to directly "become a better mentalist" but you can decide to practice a new f*lse shuffle of a d0uble l1ft or rehearse an effect every day and so on.) Winning very frequently has a powerful psychological effect I think many people don't fully understand.) When I lay my head down at night and I've eaten healthy and gotten some exercise that day, it's over. I won. I won most of the last 365 days this past year and as a result I've lost about 10 percent of my body weight and my blood chemistry (HDL, LDL, kidney function, blood sugar etc.) has improved dramatically. Sorry if you found this boring but I think it's a tale worth telling. Never mistake a desired outcome for actual goals. Achieve you goals most days--day after day-- and the desired outcome is inevitable. And remember, you don't have to do it perfectly, you just have to do it.
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StJohn Regular user 143 Posts |
Well I always wear jeans in every performance. It is who I am and they pay me to be me. If I had to do something with a theme I would dress up if it made sense.
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Decomposed Eternal Order High Desert 12059 Posts |
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On 2011-11-30 09:30, Rocketeer wrote: Not boring to me bro, congrats are in order here!! D
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Scott Burton Inner circle 1131 Posts |
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On 2011-11-30 09:51, StJohn wrote: Again, I'm not sure what it means to have jeans as a part of who you are (I'm a jeans guy too - but at home or with friends). In my area of work, I couldn't see it working. However, I'm still interested in a photo of someone on stage with jeans that look appropriate for a professional event. I don't mind being proven wrong - please post a photo (or perhaps a model showing the outfit you would wear). |
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David Thiel Inner circle Western Canada...where all that oil is 4005 Posts |
I am not sure size is the issue...and not just because I am larger.
Confidence comes from the way you carry yourself, the care you take in dressing yourself -- the way you comport yourself when you interact with the audience. Your bearing. You costume...because no matter how you define yourself it IS a costume...must be immaculate. Your shirt has to FIT and be clean. You need to consider where you are working and who will see you. Shoes? Are you kidding me? They have to fit, be comfortable and perfectly clean and shined. You always need to look just a little better than the audience. Women, executives and your clients ALL notice. Trust me. I did a trade show last year with a guy in a tux with ratty sneakers. My client noticed and was embarassed. I am amazed at how sloppy many performers look. Grease stains on their shirts, scuffed shoes -- ill fitting pants. Seriously??? This is how a pro dresses? Your audience bases a HUGE percentage of their impression of who you are on how you look -- and that impression is made within the first few seconds that they see you. Seconds. Costume is as critical as props are...as critical as a sound system. If you're big...or little...or odd in any way...dress to compensate for it -- or to accentuate it, if that's part of your character. And I don't think the audience is paying to see ME, by they way. They are paying to see the mentalist/magician I become when I perform and these are two completely different people. If they were seeing "Me" -- they'd see a big guy in Harley t-shirts, comfortable shoes and jeans. Would I ever perform like this? Nope. I put on my costume like I put on my performing character. A proper costume is a key part of my performing arsenal. David
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Simon (Ted) Edwards Inner circle London 1528 Posts |
@Scott: I'm the same regarding jeans, actually. I am totally comfortable in a suit, but sometimes it makes sense to seem a little bit informal.
The photo below was not from a mentalism presentation but it was a fairly important event. One in which I'm supposed to know what I'm talking about on a technical level, rather than being a smooth, well-groomed sales person. In some areas of life the slightly scruffy are taken more seriously than the slick. You can just about make out the jeans turn-ups below |
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Simon (Ted) Edwards Inner circle London 1528 Posts |
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On 2011-11-30 12:15, David Thiel wrote: I'm sure Mark Elsdon would agree with you. He mentions his own weight in his performances. As does John Archer, now I think about it. T. |
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