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Hard to believe that 31 years have passed since losing John Lennon.
I often wonder what Mr. Lennon would have to say about the crazy World we live in today.
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John Lennon's assassin did it so people everywhere would remember his name, and Mark David Chapman's wish came true with me. I'll never forget what John said to Mr Chapman after he did his dirty deed "you've shot me"
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It was thirty one years ago today?
It was only twenty years ago today that sergeant pepper taught the band to play.
All this timeline $*** is playing havoc with my mozg.
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John Lennon did not have an assassin, he had a murderer. He was not assassinated, he was murdered.
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^ (depends on your politics, hombre...)

I remember the day. I still have the newspaper that ran the headline "John Lennon Shot to Death".

Looking at life through rose-colored lenses is not a waste of time. Neither is using your fame to promote peace and an anti-war ideology.

Things change when people take action.
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Patrick is correct.

A common definition of "assassination" is:

Quote:
To carry out an assassination is "to murder (a usually prominent person) by a sudden and/or secret attack, often for political reasons."[1][2] Alternatively, assassination may be defined as "the act of deliberately killing someone, especially a public figure, usually for hire or for political reasons."

An assassination may be prompted by religious, ideological, political, or military motives; it may be carried out for the prospect of financial gain, to avenge a grievance, from the desire to acquire fame or notoriety (that is, a psychological need to garner personal public recognition), from the wish to form some kind of "relationship" with a public figure, or from the desire (or at least the willingness) to be killed or commit suicide in the act.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination


Was John Lennon a public figure? Yes. By many he was also a political figure.

Was Chapman's motive to "acquire fame or notoriety (that is, a psychological need to garner personal public recognition)," [or] "from the wish to form some kind of "relationship" with a public figure?" Also,yes.

It is, therefore, entirely correct to refer to Lennon's killing as an assassination.

I, too, will never forget that day when a phenomenal musician and composer, and an important voice for peace, was silenced.

Good thoughts,

Bob
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John's legacy lives on in this jaded world. John as an individual and The Beatles collectively are voice crying in the wilderness. Their message is simple and heaven knows we need it today.

Thank you John for everything. I know you are laughing right now at the pointless battle of semantics.

Give peace a chance!

Ahimsa,
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Hear, hear! Vlad.

I really miss John's voice in the world but fortunately it is one of the voices in my head.

-Mary Mowder
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On 2011-12-08 21:33, Patrick Differ wrote:
^ (depends on your politics, hombre...)

"Looking at life through rose-colored lenses is not a waste of time. Neither is using your fame to promote peace and an anti-war ideology.

Things change when people take action."

Very well said Patrick, my sentiments exactly but you said it better than I ever could.
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On 2011-12-09 03:08, Mary Mowder wrote:
Hear, hear! Vlad.

I really miss John's voice in the world but fortunately it is one of the voices in my head.

-Mary Mowder


But only ONE of the voices Mary... Only ONE of them...

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Too true Doomo.

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I don't see him as large as his fans do. I feel that the image building done in the years since his death add to the glamor of him.
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Thorndyke,

John (and Yoko) took a hard stand for Peace when it threatened John's citizenship.

Obviously John had some personal problems which were made very apparent (and possibly aggravated) by constant attention in the press. John was not perfect but he was certainly authentic. I don't know how old you are but John had a good image and a huge fan base well before his death.

Having seen the rise of the Beatles and subsequent chapters of John's life I have great respect for his artistry and humanity. He is missed.

Thanks for the link mastermindreader.

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Do you have a bee in your bonnet, or something? Why are you trying to insult a dead man? If you don't like John Lennon why don't you start your own hate thread, and see how many others agree with your nonsense? This thread is to commemorate a legend, and you are just a party pooper.

SHAME ON YOU
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Geez Al, mellow out. I simply disagreed with the view that he was assassinated, this doesn't mean I hate him or his work. I just don't elevate him any higher than I feel is justified.
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As a general rule, early death does tend to elevate celebrities' reputations.
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley.

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Lennon wrote a lot of good songs, and a couple of masterpieces. His politics, despite what J Edgar and the gang thought, were pretty incoherent.
It was a sad day the day he got shot. But assassination? I don't think that describes what happened.
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Landmark-

Read the definition I posted earlier in this thread. It describes EXACTLY what happened.

And "Give Peace a Chance" sounded pretty coherent to me.

Good thoughts,

Bob
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Yes Thorndyke
I did over react and taste in music is a personal matter.
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