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Al Angello Eternal Order Collegeville, Pa. USA 11045 Posts |
The Jack Dempsey vs Jess Willard fight featured the best left hook I ever saw. They called this fight "the worst beating in history" for a good reason.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VawHgrLvbD4 I actually met Jack Dempsey at his restaurant on Broadway and 42nd street during the 1964 New York worlds fair. He sat in the front table of his restaurant shaking hands with fight fans all night.
Al Angello The Comic Juggler/Magician
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Al Angello Eternal Order Collegeville, Pa. USA 11045 Posts |
Lobo will know better than me, but Willard was the champ. "The great white hope" the man who beat a very old Jack Johnson for the heavy weight championship, and at the hand shake they didn't look like they belonged in the same ring, Willard looked unbeatable.
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motown Inner circle Atlanta by way of Detroit 6136 Posts |
Al, just how old are you? What row were you sitting in?
OK, I guess you didn't mean you were actually at the fight. It's hard to get into boxing now a days when there are so many different boxing organizations and multiple titles for each weight class.
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Magnus Eisengrim Inner circle Sulla placed heads on 1053 Posts |
It's been all downhill since the Tommy Burns-Jack Johnson fight.
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned; The best lack all conviction, while the worst Are full of passionate intensity.--Yeats |
mastermindreader 1949 - 2017 Seattle, WA 12586 Posts |
I was at the fight! I think I saw Al there too!
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critter Inner circle Spokane, WA 2653 Posts |
"They don't make boxers like they used to"
I know, right? The waistband is always wearing out and ****.
"The fool is one who doesn't know what you have just found out."
~Will Rogers |
Al Angello Eternal Order Collegeville, Pa. USA 11045 Posts |
Lets get this straight I met Jack Dempsey in 1964, and he fought Jess Willard in 1919, which is about when my father was born.
Al Angello The Comic Juggler/Magician
http://www.juggleral.com http://home.comcast.net/~juggleral/ "Footprints on your ceiling are almost gone" |
mastermindreader 1949 - 2017 Seattle, WA 12586 Posts |
Oh. It must have been your grandfather I saw at the fight.
Seriously, one of the coolest gifts I ever received was a pair of miniature boxing gloves autographed by Jack Dempsey that my grandparents got at his restaurant in New York. Good thoughts, Bob |
Bill Hilly Elite user 449 Posts |
I wear briefs.
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Magnus Eisengrim Inner circle Sulla placed heads on 1053 Posts |
That is a nauseating clip.
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned; The best lack all conviction, while the worst Are full of passionate intensity.--Yeats |
LobowolfXXX Inner circle La Famiglia 1196 Posts |
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On 2011-12-08 17:07, Magnus Eisengrim wrote: We can only surmise that this is a national, not a racial, commentary.
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley. "...as we reason and love, we are able to hope. And hope enables us to resist those things that would enslave us." |
Al Angello Eternal Order Collegeville, Pa. USA 11045 Posts |
Lobo
I'm a little surprised no one asked about the Jack Johnson Jess Willard fight. Now that was a racially charged fight. John If Willard was smart enough to stay down it wouldn't have been such a terrible beating.
Al Angello The Comic Juggler/Magician
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Chessmann Inner circle 4247 Posts |
Reminiscient of Emile Griffith vs Benny Paret fatal fight. Man...
My ex-cat was named "Muffin". "Vomit" would be a better name for her. AKA "The Evil Ball of Fur".
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Chessmann Inner circle 4247 Posts |
About the damage to Willard - apparently it wasn't as severe as rumored:
"In the fight Willard was later reputed to have suffered a broken jaw, cheekbone, and ribs, as well as losing several teeth, although at the scene, witnesses and even a sparring partner who travelled back with Willard and his wife 2 days after the fight said he was only bruised, and had a black eye. (Since he gave several interviews right after the fight, as well as on the next day to reporters, his jaw could not have been broken). His attempt to fight to the finish, ending when he was unable to come out for the fourth round, is considered one of the most courageous performances in boxing history."
My ex-cat was named "Muffin". "Vomit" would be a better name for her. AKA "The Evil Ball of Fur".
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Patrick Differ Inner circle 1540 Posts |
Man o man. I had a hard time telling which bell was getting rung... the one the timekeeper used, or the one in his head?
Will you walk into my parlour? said the Spider to the Fly,
Tis the prettiest little parlour that ever you did spy; The way into my parlour is up a winding stair, And I've a many curious things to show when you are there. Oh no, no, said the little Fly, to ask me is in vain, For who goes up your winding stair -can ne'er come down again. |
LobowolfXXX Inner circle La Famiglia 1196 Posts |
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On 2011-12-08 21:34, Al Angello wrote: It sure was. Kind of amazing that not that long later, all of America was rooting for a black fighter in another heavyweight championship fight - Louis vs. Schmeling, when it was "better" to be black and American than white and German. Interestingly, Louis and Schmeling themselves got along well, and became friends.
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley. "...as we reason and love, we are able to hope. And hope enables us to resist those things that would enslave us." |
LobowolfXXX Inner circle La Famiglia 1196 Posts |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDWnMXzgeZo One of the very best ever.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imZaiGJgbsw War. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FuYclaefqPQ War, Part Deux. http://youtu.be/ue4LAW217pw?t=9m One of the best left hooks in recent history http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8XrcGXFcmc Two modern greats who had a 4-fight rivalry as good as Graziano-Zale, Robinson-LaMotta, Pep-Sadler, or anyone else.
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley. "...as we reason and love, we are able to hope. And hope enables us to resist those things that would enslave us." |
Magnus Eisengrim Inner circle Sulla placed heads on 1053 Posts |
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On 2011-12-08 21:14, LobowolfXXX wrote: LOL hadn't even thought of the racial angle. BTW, some of the Burn Johnson fight is on youtube. What a mismatch. Burns was tiny for a heavyweight (5'7", 175 lbs; he weighed in for the fight at 168 lbs, leading to speculation that he had been sick) and Johnson was physically impressive (6'1" and 210 lbs). Apparently Burns had been knocking out bigger men for a decade, but Johnson was not only bigger, he was strategically superior. He tied up Burns at will, totally owning the fight. The fight was in 1908, but it looked like a big man fromt he 20th century was toying with a little man from the 19th. Some interesting quotes: Burns: "I will defend my title against all comers, none barred. By this I mean white, black, Mexican, Indian, or any other nationality. I propose to be the champion of the world, not the white, or the Canadian, or the American. If I am not the best man in the heavyweight division, I don't want the title." Johnson: "Let me say of Mr. Burns, a Canadian and one of yourselves, that he has done what no one else ever did, he gave a black man a chance for the championship. He was beaten, but he was game." In 1910, former champion James Jeffries came out of retirement to fight Johnson: "I feel obligated to the sporting public at least to make an effort to reclaim the heavyweight championship for the white race. . . I should step into the ring again and demonstrate that a white man is king of them all."
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned; The best lack all conviction, while the worst Are full of passionate intensity.--Yeats |
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