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Father Photius
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On 2013-01-19 21:52, Paddy wrote:
The Shrine is part of the Masons. You have to be a 32 degree (Scottish Rite) or a member of the Commandry York Rite) to be a Shriner. They have hospitals for crippled and burned children all over the world and NO ONE can pay a penny to get the care, it's all free.


Actually there are a good number of Grand Lodges that do not recognize the Shrine as a masonic organization. They are an organization that only accepts as applicants for membership those who are either 32nd degree Scottish Rite masons or Knight Templar York Rite masons.
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Actually there are a good number of Grand Lodges that do not recognize the Shrine as a masonic organization. They are an organization that only accepts as applicants for membership those who are either 32nd degree Scottish Rite masons or Knight Templar York Rite masons.


In my memory (if it serves me correctly) the Grand Lodge of Michigan is the most recent to declare the Shriners a "clandestine" group and has officially withdrawn recognization of the organization. Kentucky is another state which has long held the same argument.
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And the intrigue continues...
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Let me clear up my last post and say that the deciding factor(s) in the withdrawal of recognition of the Shriners by the Grand Lodge of Michigan was largely due to major criminal activity, the ensuing trial and conviction of a sole member of a local Shriner chapter on felonious charges, and subsequent possible cover-ups by his particular chapter.
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I just picked up on this thread and only one week raised a master mason.

I may have it wrong, but I'm surprised that with all this discussion no one has mentioned that the third degree master mason is the highest degree in the fraternity. The rest are all asides. Smile But then, I'm just a newbie, but lovin't it just the same. Smile
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On 2013-01-15 12:37, imgic wrote:
Cryptic alphabets, code phrases, rules and regulations and funny hats...sounds like a cult to me...

We are a brotherhood, a fraternity of like-minded men. That simple. We do good work for each other and the communities we live in. It's also arguably the oldest fraternity in the history of the planet dating to King Solomon. That's pretty old. Smile
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On 2011-12-15 09:53, Ekuth wrote:
That would be because the compass and mitre are symbols for something else entirely and have nothing to do with the standard usage as far as Masonic rite goes. I can't go into more detail, sorry.

On the other hand, I'm certain there is more than one brother who is a talented draftsman.


I guess it all depends if the brother is "on the square, and on the level"! --or possibly if his apron flap is up or down!

--1/2 brother of the late Bill Joy (whom I believe founded or was deeply involved with the formation of the INVISIBLE LODGE)
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I have sat in invisable lodge meetings and initiations with John Calvert, with Roger Miller, Bill Pitts, Harry Garrison, Lee Grabel, and many others. I have enjoyed each and every meeting and cements those members in a very special group or band of brothers. I am glad I have found this post.... would love to chat with other members.
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Brothers,

I've been a member of the Café since ~2006 (not too active of late). I recently returned to the Café after having made a journey that included several trips around a Lodge. Now, after experiencing the power of the Lion's Paw, I am sitting in line with some very good men who I hope will help me improve myself.

Today, on an odd chance, I combined my interest in magic with my interest in Masonry while communicating with Dr. Google. Much to my surprise I discovered the IL and this thread.

Are both still active?

Thanks,

Steve
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@Steve,

This Short Talk Bulletin was prepared by Worshipful Brother Walter J. Harmon, Past Master of Richmond Lodge No. 10, Richmond, Virginia, a magician for more than 28 years, and an active member of “The Invisible Lodge.”

The expression, “the magic of Free-masonry,” takes on a different meaning when one realizes the great number of professional and amateur magicians who are and have been members of the Ancient Craft. It was only natural that these skilled performers of the art of producing baffling effects and illusions should band together to share their interests with the Fraternity.

In the strictest sense of the word, Lodge, “the Invisible Lodge” is not a Lodge. It is an international organization of Freemasons who also have as their vocation or avocation - MAGIC. The Invisible Lodge was formed in 1953 by Sir Felix Korim of England, who served as the organization’s first President. Member-ship in The Invisible Lodge has been accorded to more than 800 selected Masons throughout the world, including such notable and well-known figures in the world of magic as Black-stone, Okito, Ballentine, Levanto, McDonald Hirch and Jack Gwynne.

Joined by the common bond of magic, these Brethren who may be or have been professional entertainers, hobbyists, collectors or students of both magic and Freemasonry, combine those interests to produce the organization known as “The Invisible Lodge.”

Just as the roots of Freemasonry are entrenched in antiquity, so are those of Magic. Magic is a word referring to the craft of the magi. The magi were the priests of the ancient Medes and Persians. After the rise of Zoroaster, they became the priests of the Zoroastrian religion. The ancient Greeks and Hebrews knew them as Astrologers, Interpreters of Dreams, and givers of Omens. The reign of the priests was more than eight thousand years ago. Zoroaster is believed to have lived about five thousand years before our era. He is said to have been an unusual child who was gifted to have visions at an early age. Born in Azerbaijan in Northern Persia, he taught a belief in one God, the existence of the devil, and the doctrine of immortality. It is alleged that these priests (the magi) predicted the birth of the Christ Child and were the ones who brought him the gifts of gold, frankincense and myrrh. As ruling monarchs, the priests were referred to as “Kings of the Orient” and “the wise men.”

There are certain similarities between the order of the Magi and Freemasonry which should be noted. The word, “Dao” is Persian in origin. It signifies Light and Wisdom and is the forerunner of the word Deity (Bright One). Fire or light was used in the rituals of the magi to symbolize intelligence, knowledge and wisdom. It is recorded that during the initiation, the Arch Magus sat upon a throne of gold in the East.

The established dates of the reign of the Magi was five thousand years before the Trojan War, which took place in 1200 B.C. King Solomon began his temple in 966 B.C. This gives room for interesting speculation.

The Magi were Kings, Priests, Lawyers,

Engineers, etc. In essence, they embodied most

of the knowledge of their time, earning the

respect of the people. It is the hypothesis of some historians that the Magi even possessed knowledge that has since been lost to man and that they possessed powers that would seem awesome to us even today.

Always in history there have been those who sought knowledge for knowledge’s sake and those who sought to use it to manipulate and enslave the less informed. As the knowledge of those ancient wise ones became the specializations of medicine, law, astronomy, and philosophy, there were those who specialized in those little known principles of the miracle worker and became just that. These individuals, whether in quest for power or riches, formed a special priesthood that manipulated the ignorant and robbed the credulous.

Magic has passed through many forms and many lands until today it is deception for the purpose of entertainment with the trappings and refinements of those lands.

Masonry, in its language and ritual, retains much of the various sects and institutions it passed through before arriving at its present state.

In Masonry, as in Magic, we meet with Chaldean, Indian, Egyptian, Jewish, and Christian symbols and ideas.

It is little wonder then that at some time in history a group of men with an interest in both Magic and Masonry would form an organization that would embody the two as its focus.

Many Masons are surprised to find that many of the Great Magicians, whose names are familiar, and many others were active Masons and active in the various appendant bodies. Many could and did tell interesting anecdotes about their Masonic experiences. One of those deals with Brother Harry Keller, famous for the floating lady illusion which he introduced in this country. Brother Keller was shipwrecked in the Bay of Biscay and his Blue Lodge diploma went to the bottom of the sea. It was later recovered by divers who brought up baggage from the sunken steamer. He later remarked it had been viewed by Grand Master Neptune and returned.

Membership in the Invisible Lodge is limited to those persons interested in Magic, who have been raised to the Sublime Degree of Master Mason. The publication of the Invisible Lodge is called the “Trestle Board” and is pub-lished quarterly, giving information on the Masonic and Magical activities of the members.

The annual stated meeting of the Invisible Lodge is held in conjunction with the Colum-bus, Ohio Magic Fest. The date and time are announced annually. Additional meetings are held at the National Conventions of the International Brotherhood of Magicians and The Society of American Magicians as well as recognized Regional Conventions.

The Invisible Lodge publishes Bert Douglas’ book, “Masonic Magic,” which is the sole work devoted to presentation of Magic with a Masonic interpretation.

Members are encouraged to participate in Masonic education programs by using their Magic abilities and skills to illustrate the under-lying principles of Masonic philosophy, as well as providing entertainment within the Fraternity. They are further urged to labor in the non-magical areas by the Invisible Lodge’s award system.

The first of these, the ZB Award, so named after the second president of the Invisible Lodge, Dr. Zina Bennett, is a certificate presented to any member who gives a total of five certified gratis performances for the residents of a Masonic Orphanage, Masonic Home for the Aged, or the patients of a Shrine Hospital. Another award of the Invisible Lodge is the Masters Award, consisting of a certificate and wand presented to a Brother who has received the coveted 33x of the Scottish Rite. Another award is presented annually, known as the Harvey Award, based on the traditional invisible rabbit, to a Brother who has served the Invisible Lodge or Masonry with distinction.

Membership in the Invisible Lodge is not necessary to be a recipient.

The meetings of the Invisible Lodge are held at midnight, with a special ritual prepared for it that combine the elements of Masonry and Magic. At these meetings, honors are given to both the oldest and youngest members present.

Probably the most singular important lesson to be learned by the average Mason from the Invisible Lodge is that all of the great Magicians saw fit to give a certain amount of their time to Masonry and with their travel and exposure to the blandishments of the world felt that this brotherhood was of value.

Another lesson lies in the origins of both Masonry and Magic. Rooted and entwined in antiquity as both are, the mystical qualities of both manifest themselves in our inner feelings and convince us of the lasting value of both.

In our hurried view of the history, we made mention of knowledge that was lost. Of course this came about as the result of persecution of both the thinking individual and the organizations to which they belonged, by those who would bend mankind to a life of superstitious slavery. The individual Mason cannot and should not lose sight of the sacrifices of our predecessors and our debt to them to preserve our ways and customs in their entirety and guard them against exploitation by the politically ambitious. Smile
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It should be mentioned that ANY MALE can be a Mason. It requires a belief in the brotherhood of man and the Fatherhood of God. No matter what you call your idea of a supreme being. I belong to a Lodge of Jewish men, but have attended Christian, Buddhist and Hindu Lodges. The only Lodge that discouraged me was in Boston's Chinatown and the Tyler explained that the reason was that most of the members did not speak English and everything was in Chinese, so they would be embarrassed that they could not give me the honours to a visiting Mason.
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I just noticed the below item after
a few years of having a gmail account.
I can't believe I was blinded by the light!

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I posted this thread in this forum
for the TravelinG Busker Brother.

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Brothers,

After a few years journey into the East and now having Past that milestone I feel it is now time to focus some attention on this endeavor.

Having now earned the right to add a Quadrant below the Square and Compasses, I have submitted membership application to the IL.

Looking forward becoming a member of this Brotherhood in the near future.

Steve
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It should be mentioned that ANY MALE can be a Mason. It requires a belief in the brotherhood of man and the Fatherhood of God. No matter what you call your idea of a supreme being. I belong to a Lodge of Jewish men, but have attended Christian, Buddhist and Hindu Lodges. The only Lodge that discouraged me was in Boston's Chinatown and the Tyler explained that the reason was that most of the members did not speak English and everything was in Chinese, so they would be embarrassed that they could not give me the honours to a visiting Mason.


Isaac Asimov could never be a mason.
Penn and Teller could never be masons.
Stephen Frye could never be a mason.

I wish you and your organization well, you are good people and you do good work. But "ANY MALE" cannot be a Mason.
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Women can be masons too, they just can't be members of that particular boy's club...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Co-Freemasonry
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Welcome back. Funny I was just looking back at an old thread in NVMS where you were a significant poster. We were discussing things we can no longer discuss.
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Thank you, sir.

Between several changes in life circumstance and the general demeanor of the state of discourse the magic Café I decided to take a break from the Magic Café in general, NVMS in specific.

But my interest in magic and communicating with the magic community has increased recently, so I thought I'd pop in and say a couple of words.

It's nice to see you all again.
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Nice to have you here, G.
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Thanks, Ed, it's nice to see you too. It's great to see that most of my favorite posters are still here.
This place has longevity, I'll give it that much!
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