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Jeff Jenson Veteran user Denver, Colorado 319 Posts 
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I do a signed bill to lemon and it's only in the lemon for about 2 minutes so its not so damp but it has a nice dampness to it. Before I presented this effect I played around with it and found out the the bill dries out in about 2 minutes or less. Unless your doing a serial number the bill in really soaked.
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Harry Murphy Inner circle Maryland 5445 Posts
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Actually given the technique that I presently use most often when performing the bill to lemon (or lime or orange) the bill is never really in the fruit yet it is slightly "damp" when handed back. As you can guess I am using the method that Dick Sullivan taught me a couple of decades ago. Still, I prefer borrowed and signed bill to borrowed cigarette or to balloon.
The artist formally known as Mumblepeas!
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Michael Baker Eternal Order Near a river in the Midwest 11172 Posts
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On 2012-01-10 22:12, Jeff77 wrote: Good comment! This is a real convincer that the bill was really in the lemon. In some spectators' minds, this could make all the difference in credibility. It is unlikely most people would know how long it would take to soak a bill, but they would know that it was definitely IN the lemon.
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Aftereight Regular user 123 Posts
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On 2012-01-08 10:15, wizardpa wrote: Hi wizardpa - Thom Peterson put his version of fortune cookie in his DVD Sucker Punch, called Fortune 500. |
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Jeff Jenson Veteran user Denver, Colorado 319 Posts
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The method of loading the lemon I use is from Doc Eason. I take my time before the revel so I know the bill is getting damp. This is one of my most favorite routines and it's a real convincer to people with the visual of the bill on the lemon, the juice on the bill and the smell!
Jeff Jenson
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David Charvet Special user www.charvetmagic.com 501 Posts
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I am planning a new, revised edition (after 21 years!) of my "Bill In Lemon Book" which should be out later this Spring. If any of you would like to contribute any of your handlings or tips, I'm happy to see them.
You may PM me or e-mail to: charvetmagic@aol.com. Thanks! David Charvet |
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Dr_J_Ayala Inner circle In search of Vlad Dracul and his 2169 Posts
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I agree with Jeff when he said that one of the best parts about using lemons is watching people feel that they are wet (or at least damp), and then when they actually smell the bill. I love both those aspects and the punch that they both deliver is why I still like to use lemons when the situation is suitable. In fact a few nights ago I was doing some work behind the bar instead of walkaround for a change at a regular restaurant of mine. There was a family of three and they all had virgin lemon daiquiris with their dinner. I did the bill in lemon for them and when the little girl (she was about 7 or 8) took the bill out at the end, she sniffed it and exclaimed, "Smell this Mama, it smells just like Pledge!"
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Jeff Jenson Veteran user Denver, Colorado 319 Posts
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"Smells like Pledge" - Priceless
Jeff Jenson
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Mac_Stone Inner circle Miami, FL 1424 Posts
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On 2012-01-13 19:28, David Charvet wrote: I have your book in paperback, I love it but I hope your new edition comes out in hardcover. On the Bill in Lemon, wring out some of the juice from the lemon before you get into the trick and the bill will still come out wet as opposed to soaked. |
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Al Angello Eternal Order Collegeville, Pa. USA 11045 Posts
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I love the pledge line, and I never thought to squeeze the lemon first. It's a good night when I can have a laugh, and learn a lesson at the magic Café.
I do torn corner to lemon, but it is all applicable.
Al Angello The Comic Juggler/Magician
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Terry Owens Inner circle Ft. Wayne, Indiana 1707 Posts
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I've switched to the bill ending up in a sealed bag of potato chips...I'm getting an even better reaction than in the fruit
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David Charvet Special user www.charvetmagic.com 501 Posts
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Mac - The original edition (500 copies) of the Lemon Book was hardbound. Second edition was softbound.
The new edition will be hardbound. Thanks for asking. David |
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Pop Haydn Inner circle Los Angeles 3691 Posts
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In my steampunk routine, the Teleportation-Device, I finish the Bill to Lemon with Bill to Egg. The bill is torn, burnt around the edges, signed and covered with lemon juice and egg:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usedWvB5ibc Without animals in the act, the things that work best to make things look big are: Having spectator's on stage, using fire, using liquid, using long rope, big scarves and other items that move in a wiggly way and draw the eye. I don't use animals, so I work hard to fill the stage with these sorts of things. I think the complete destruction and and desecration of the bill is important to the impact and enjoyment of the routine. |
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Michael Baker Eternal Order Near a river in the Midwest 11172 Posts
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On 2012-01-19 20:05, Pop Haydn wrote: Interesting perspective on this. The meat of any borrowed object routine is the perceived destruction of it. That's why the use of borrowed rings, watches, hats, etc. became so popular long ago. In almost every case, there was comedy derived from some apparent demise of the item. Eggs were broken in hats, and watches were smashed to bits. Compared to the actual magic that happens later, this is definitely the primary point of interest. Of course in most routines, the apparent destruction is resolved. Personal and irreplaceable items would have to be. But in the case of a bill, this is different. Yes, it is property, but not in the same way. It is easily replaceable, even if returned to the owner dripping with lemon juice, or sealed in an entire roll of Scotch tape. The process is worth the inconvenience. To assume that the magic of where the bill ends up is the main point is making a mistake, I think. If the lemon juice becomes an inconvenience, then the main point has been lost. I like your thinking, Whit.
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Pop Haydn Inner circle Los Angeles 3691 Posts
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Thanks, Michael. I think it is important to square the spectator by asking for a bill that can be "dedicated to science"--setting up that this is for a sacrifice to the gods of science, and he would not be getting it back unharmed. I think the egg is funnier and stronger because it is messier. But it is also the fact that an egg can not have been prior prepared, which is the solution to the lemon. The two methods cancel each other out. The "choice" element is also increased, so that the spectator has a dozen free choices instead of fifty-fifty as in the lemon--one couldn't easily have a dozen eggs prepared with dollars that match the corner and serial number. The final bill arrives with evidence that it has been through all the required trials--burnt, signed, torn, and covered with both lemon juice and egg, and the missing corner matches that of the borrowed bill. I think the canceling of methods and the knotched up conditions (the wet bill is put directly into the device, with no napkin cover, and visibly burns into nothing) create sufficient motivation for the repetition, but it is the anticipation of a big mess with eggs involved that gives it most of its entertainment value.
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A Show By Joe Elite user Long Island 407 Posts
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I use an orange in a pirate themed routine. It ties in to warm weather climate. After producing the dollar, I throw it up in the air, catch it in my mouth, to produce a money mouth coil.
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Brent McLeod Inner circle 1792 Posts
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On 2012-01-12 15:27, Jeff77 wrote: I agree with Jeff-I also use the Doc Eason Method-Have done in Hundreds of corporate shows & functions- I find the Bill which is Plastic here is semi wet but I hand a tissue after the signature reveal and has never been a problem-the effect is a show stopper to lay audiences.... |
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CSMTREE Veteran user El Paso, Texas 318 Posts
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On 2012-01-08 01:28, wmhegbli wrote: I fold my bill in eighths when loading in the lemon (ala: Mark Wilson). I also use the hanky vanish, great routine! I hope I helped you a little anyway 
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Alan Munro.jpg "View Profile") Inner circle Kentwood, Michigan, USA 5952 Posts
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I seem to remember that the bill in lemon was originally performed so that the bill would be kept as a tip, since the lender didn't want a soggy bill. I'd rather make the bill go to a small liquor bottle, a balloon or inside of a dinner roll.
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magiclimber Veteran user Boulder, Colorado 315 Posts
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Wow, This is a really good post/question. I think its great that we analyze such things and are aware of such descrepancies. I agree with pretty much everything everyone has said and have had just about the same expereience with people smelling it and not commenting on the discrepancy. The only thing I could add, is I think it's polite to offer a clean, whole 20. Not sure if this was already mentioned. I think I read this in carneycopia. Also, I use this routine on the street and usually get the soggy torn 20 as a tip, as long as the loaner is not a child. I always pray for an adult to offer the 20 as oppose to a child.
"And I woulda had your 20, if it weren't for you medding kids" The bill to lemon questions posed by Giobbi in Secret Agenda (June 25) is amazing food for thought. Definitely check it out! |
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