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TJ Halford Elite user 431 Posts |
Hey guys and gals,
I am pretty much new to the mentalism genre, thus the blank slate title. I have This is mentalism by rich ferguson, but these effects seem to be more mental magic than true mentalism. I just received EI by luke jermay last week so I have been working on that one. I was curious if there was some particular routines or artists you would recommend? thanks in advance, and have a good one every one.
TJ Halford
"Imagine what is Possible" |
tenchu Inner circle Europe 1117 Posts |
You should definitely check this out: http://www.lybrary.com/thirtynine-steps-mentalism-a-10.html
Mike |
Magicus Loyal user 281 Posts |
Bob Cassidy
Corinda Richard Osterlind From there expand out as you'll have a very solid foundation. |
Magicus Loyal user 281 Posts |
Forgot to add... never imitate anyone's style or routine you see. Learn the basics and do your own thing.
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tenchu Inner circle Europe 1117 Posts |
Forget about the classic stuff for a moment and dig deep into the classics. Read some essential books, magazines and you will find some hidden gems that you'll love.
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TJ Halford Elite user 431 Posts |
Holy $#!* I appoligize I was interrupted when typing that last post, and when I got back to it I thought I had finished typing it. I have also recently dove head first into bizarre magic and purchased several of the outlaw book tests
TJ Halford
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cirrus Inner circle his minions made 1751 Posts |
I really, really suggest that you buy practical mental magic by anneman and thirteen steps to mentalism by corinda, even before reading the booktest manuals by outlaw effects. It will do your style more justice. Also, bizarre magic is a style of it's own. You have to be able to pull it off believable. You can't just show up with an old book without a story attached.
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LobowolfXXX Inner circle La Famiglia 1196 Posts |
Bob Cassidy
Corinda Richard Osterlind From there, contract in, as you'll have more than enough material to see you through several lifetimes.
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley. "...as we reason and love, we are able to hope. And hope enables us to resist those things that would enslave us." |
jakubr Veteran user 326 Posts |
Also I think it would help, just to watch performances of great mentalists, like those above. Don't try to copy their style, but learn what's different in the approach of mentalist and magician.
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bevbevvybev Inner circle UK 2672 Posts |
Don't buy effects, just books and manuscripts and a few dvds just to see 'what it looks like'.
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Magicus Loyal user 281 Posts |
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On 2012-01-09 21:18, LobowolfXXX wrote: In terms of knowledge, yes. But some people need to review other people to be sure not to copycat these three mens' style. Otherwise they become a mini-Cassidy or mini-Osterlind and may not even realize it. We must respect their work and their personalities and become ourselves. |
Engali Elite user 435 Posts |
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Goldfield Veteran user Traveller 388 Posts |
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On 2012-01-09 17:20, Magicus wrote: I have to respectfully disagree. Most of the greats in many different forms of entertainment first started by imitating their idols later finding their own style. We all gotta start somewhere!
The greatest thing you'll ever learn, is just to love & be loved in return.
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Sean Giles Inner circle Cambridge/ UK 3517 Posts |
Lets spend a couple of days learning about mentalism on youtube and then come on here and give advice as if we know what we're talking about... Yippee, I think I need a fat one..
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Magicus Loyal user 281 Posts |
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On 2012-01-10 11:14, peterd wrote: I respectfully disagree to disagree. Imitation is never a form of flattery. Yes while it does occur, we shouldn't justify it occurring as a methodological given in the learning process. Dunniger was rather irate at Kreskin for copying him early in Kreskin's career. Kreskin, I am sure, is no fan of anyone copying him either. And so on. Sadly some of the greats have copied. For me, it tarnishes their star. We have to strongly discourage this imitation tendency. |
mastermindreader 1949 - 2017 Seattle, WA 12586 Posts |
Emulate and be inspired by, yes. Blatantly imitate, no.
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Magicus Loyal user 281 Posts |
Well put.
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TJ Halford Elite user 431 Posts |
Thanks for the advice guys, and for the link Egali.
TJ Halford
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Mentally Unstable New user The Planet Xeon 21 Posts |
Emulate and be inspired by, yes. Blatantly imitate, no.
;) M.U |
maxpax Regular user Sweden 120 Posts |
I've also recently (about a year ago) started with mentalism and I started reading Corinda and found it very good. After finding the c****r t**r I had it pretty much made in the shade. Also it has a good chapter on simple mnemonics if you are into that. In the beginning I was mostly just looking for good effects to copy. By now I've started re-reading a lot of the books I have read and I'm trying to use the methods to do my own thing.
I've found it pretty hard to find a good book about presentation though, since I realize that presentation is the most important part of mentalism. A book about creating a persona, defining your skills and general stuff like that. Anyways I'm rambling. Good luck with your studying! |
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