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On 2012-01-14 09:42, parmenion wrote:
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On 2012-01-14 09:28, magician 336 wrote:
I completely agree Bob, I consider showmanship and being natural on stage a neverending journey and art which I work on every moment of my life. People tend to always ask me "how are you able to do that" or "how do you have such a good stage presence" -Jake


My god, you're only 19 and already so good on stage!
When we think until last year you were only a close-up magician for friend!
When do you have a show to Broadway ?


Hey Parmenion,

There's no reason to ostracize someone for expressing their opinion.

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Thanks a lot magic maniac to put me on the right track, lol
You're not the first one on the Café to post this link, as you have my website you can call me by my first name...
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In the same time maybe you should read you link before posting, anyway I'm not surprise you're in my "connard" since awhile.
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Carrot Top on the other hand is full of energy and life, but to me at least, it couldn't be more boring.

Hey! Don't be hatin' on Carrot Top! The man spends a lot of money to bring those prop gags to you and yours.
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On 2012-01-14 08:13, mastermindreader wrote:

Richard Osterlind (and most of the rest of us) spent many years learning how to seem "natural" on stage.


That´s all! Over & Out!

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I believe Bananchek explains how he became a mentalist on one of his dvd's. First he was a dull boy, always quiet and introverted, until he became a mentalist.
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Parmenion,

Are you reffering to your post where you blame some ex-girlfriend for the review ? How do you think that looks when people are looking at your services bud ? You would've been better off leaving it alone and trying to get someone post a good review, or is that too hard ?

BTW - For those who don't understand French, Parmenion called me a Mother******. Some guy huh ?
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In my opinion, no one can say what amount of showmanship or casualness is suitable for one's performance. It all depends on the character. Who you are as a performer. There is no formula or ratio for how much drama etc. to include when performing. You must judge this yourself!
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Thank you for taking notice parmenion, actually I will be on Broadway next week and I have already sent some passes to your inbox Smile

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Have you noticed about Parmenion? I have yet to see a post by the guy who tags himself Parmenion that wasn't a sarcastic slam or a put-down. He only jumps in to post various snarls.

I have yet to see a post by him that had any helpful or positive content. If anyone could reference even one to me, I'd change most of my opinion. While others contribute advice, experience, links, effects...he just slathers sarcasm. Has he contributed ANYTHING so far?
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Doesn't everyone put on an 'act' when they're performing?
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On 2012-01-13 22:25, granterg wrote:
I am starting to think that being natural is showmanship.

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For many great performers (in all fields, not just magic and mentalism), the appearance of naturalness is their best illusion and it is often one that has taken a great deal of preparation, practice and experience to perfect.

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On 2012-01-14 08:13, mastermindreader wrote:
Would you advise a normally dull and boring person to go on stage and "just be himself?"

"Just be yourself" is only good advice if you have a naturally dynamic personality and already know how to project it effectively on stage. That's what showmanship and stagecraft are all about.

Richard Osterlind (and most of the rest of us) spent many years learning how to seem "natural" on stage.

Good thoughts,

Bob


You mean ... you're dull and boring Bob? Say it ain't so?
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On 2012-01-14 08:13, mastermindreader wrote:
Would you advise a normally dull and boring person to go on stage and "just be himself?"

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Yes I would! Being "dull and boring" aren't performance traits. I think we're confusing performing style with effects and scripting. The effects we choose and the words we use to explain/describe what the audience is seeing can be dull and boring. But that's not what we're talking about here. We're talking about performing style. Serious, silly, heavy-handed, bombastic, contemplative, light-hearted, corny, self-righteous, egomaniacal, or some combination thereof is what defines a performing style.



Steven-

I think I either didn't communicate well or that you read something into what I wrote that wasn't what I meant. I agree with your analysis completely.

I was just responding to the notion of the OP that showmanship and "just being yourself" are the same thing. They're not.

Good thoughts,

Bob
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On 2012-01-14 16:48, phillsmiff wrote:
For many great performers (in all fields, not just magic and mentalism), the appearance of naturalness is their best illusion and it is often one that has taken a great deal of preparation, practice and experience to perfect.

Phill


Well said. Making it all look easy and natural is often the hard part.
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On 2012-01-14 16:59, mastermindreader wrote:

Steven-

I think I either didn't communicate well or that you read something into what I wrote that wasn't what I meant. I agree with your analysis completely.

I was just responding to the notion of the OP that showmanship and "just being yourself" are the same thing. They're not.

Good thoughts,

Bob


My bad. I'm sure it was me who misunderstood what you were saying. On your actual point we are very much in agreement.
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On 2012-01-14 00:40, TheOneandOnly Tensai wrote:
Didn't someone say something about how magicians are just actors playing the part of a real wizard? (I think it was James Randi)

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On 2012-01-14 15:10, Tom Jorgenson wrote:
Have you noticed about Parmenion? I have yet to see a post by the guy who tags himself Parmenion that wasn't a sarcastic slam or a put-down. He only jumps in to post various snarls.

I have yet to see a post by him that had any helpful or positive content. If anyone could reference even one to me, I'd change most of my opinion. While others contribute advice, experience, links, effects...he just slathers sarcasm. Has he contributed ANYTHING so far?


Whoa ! Be careful Tom because you just might end up on Parmenions 'connard' list...yes folks, he carries a list.
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