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Rupert Bair Inner circle ? 2179 Posts |
<<<Asian and Middle-East kids are much more well-behave and listen to adults. When I arrive, they are either sitting with their parents eating, playing at a corner or just sitting there waiting for things to happen. >>>
I will second or third that. From my experience it is the same. They are polite and well mannered. I have never had a bad show with Asian and Middle-East kids. Even in the run-down areas. Matt |
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Starrpower Inner circle 4070 Posts |
Hmmm ... I just had a birthday with a family of East Indians, and it was terrible. They are, as a whole, extremely friendly and polite people, but this show was terrible. The kids would just get up and walk over for a piece of cake in the middle of the show, for example. They were enjoying it, but it was just ... ODD!
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Cheshire Cat Special user Wilmslow, UK 941 Posts |
Ah now, this IS a slippery slope isn't it?
And it's usually me, the indiscreet one! |
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Starrpower Inner circle 4070 Posts |
It depends on how you look at it, Cheshire. I think what is being recognized are the cultural differences that may result in poor shows (if not "horror" stories.) I don't know that it's necessarily a "slippery slope" unless you perceive it to be such.
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TOTALLY MAGIC Elite user Las Vegas,NV 436 Posts |
Ron, yes, the bullet did hurt pretty bad!
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NJJ Inner circle 6437 Posts |
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On 2005-01-10 00:29, Joseph_Then wrote: Since racism is "The belief that race accounts for differences in human character or ability", it could be argued that every time we generalise about a particular ethnic group's behaviour we are being 'racist'. But don't worry, Joesph, I wasn't suggesting that at all. I too notice cultural differences between nationalities and races when I perform. My point was more that the problem isn't always with the kids, but more with our inability to deal with them. |
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magic4u02 Eternal Order Philadelphia, PA 15110 Posts |
I do not see so much of the racist aspect, as I have come to realize that different ethnic cultures react and act a certain way around my magic and presentations. I have done so many shows and so many various festivals, that I really have learned what to expect from certain ethnic cultures, and I can learn to adapt my style and presentation to account for these.
Has anyone else experienced this? Kyle
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MAGIC, etc. New user 1 Post |
Ok, I am a new user here, but have been performing professionally for over 20 years. I only have two little horror stories.
Ths first is when a balloon animal balloon popped in my eye in the middle of the show and I did the rest of the show with one eye and a bandana patch over the other. The second is the story of the little girl who just couldn't wait. She was helping with a rope trick in front of about 100 people, and the excitement and applause when she was finished was too much. I hustled her off and a teacher up to help clean up pronto! |
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Billy Whizz Special user Plymouth, UK 576 Posts |
Hi Magic,etc.,
I had the balloon pop in my eye once many years ago. It's not a nice experience, I spent the whole show with my eye all bloodshot and watery. |
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Emazdad Inner circle Plymouth UK 1954 Posts |
Me too, Before I wore glasses, it burst just as it got to full length and twacked me sraight in the eye, it hurt, I'm trying to continue with one eye 1/2 closed and streaming with tears. the booker was asking if I needed 1st aid, which I declined and soldiered on with the show. The kids, well they just wet themselves laughing thinking it was part of the show.
Yours Funfully
Clive "Emazdad" Hemsley www.emazdad.com "Magic is a secret, without the secret there is no magic" Remember there are only 3 types of people in the world, those that can count and those that can't. |
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Chad C. Inner circle 1522 Posts |
I have taught lots of kids and I have had shows with lots of different kids. The main problem with behavior is almost always the PARENTS! The kids who are well behaved are the ones with the most supportive parents.
I did a show a few weeks ago in an old movie theater to a crowd of about 350 kids and parents for a smalltown christmas festival. There was a balcony area and the kids up there were older and had no parents with them. At the start of the show, they began yelling and wouldn't stop for about a minute. Finally the security folks got up there and took care of it and the rest of the show was great. Boy, did I appreciate my sound system then. Chad PS. I did have one kid (b-day child) who didn't want to sit still and listen. So to solve the problem, he assisted me in every trick I did. He went from devil to angel just like that. |
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magicgeorge Inner circle Belfast 4299 Posts |
I'm another member of the "balloon in eye" club.It's not nice at all. I very rarely blow them up by mouth ever since. My eye continued streaming not only through that show but the next one I went too aswell.
George |
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RJE Inner circle 1848 Posts |
Balloon to eye here as well. When I used to do a lot of balloons on the fair circuit, I went out and bought a pair of eye glass frames with clear lenses to act as safety glasses.
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Rupert Bair Inner circle ? 2179 Posts |
I have a strange way of blowing up ballons. One pop in your eye (but I have done it many times) is enough so now I always put the end in my mouth and rather than holding them in the 'classic' balloon grip I put the neck into the crotch of my thumb and have my hand in front of my face almost (palm outwards). People must think I don't like the smell of them or something. Round balloons hurt more!
Matt |
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Cheshire Cat Special user Wilmslow, UK 941 Posts |
I have a clinical way of blowing up balloons. It's called a "Challenge" Compressor with chargeable power pack.
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harris Inner circle Harris Deutsch 8812 Posts |
Ditto on the Heres Mud, (er balloon) in your eye.
If one is working, you will run into some problems both with yourself, props and or audiences. About 5 years ago I did a show, and for some reason FEAR raised it's ugly head and the program turned into a comedy of errors. Actually it would have been a comedy if fear did not enter the equation. The first item began as I knocked over the water I had on stage. ( I usually keep some near by.) The lesson learned was go to water bottles.(Something I learned from wathching comedians like Robin Williams.) Though I don't do his type of humor I do add some bits to the drinking water. One is Barry Mitchells Spring Water Bit. His follow up bit, with the same prop, gets a suprisingly good response. To be honest I learned more about myself and my programs from that show, than from any other. At a Blue and Gold, I dropped the wrong end while doing cut and restored rope. This happened last year. I have been doing this effect since 1976, and I was as surprised as anyone. The strangest thing I think I read on this Café,(I think it was posted somewhere on the Café) was someone setting a dog on fire. Be safe and creative. Harris
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magic4u02 Eternal Order Philadelphia, PA 15110 Posts |
That is why I always use a T-Meyers pump or other hand pump. For me it is not only safer, but saves me from a lot of migraine headaches leter on in the gig.
Kyle
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MikeDes Inner circle Montreal 1174 Posts |
I had a strange show last December. A lady called and booked a show at the last minute for a small group of children. They was about ten 4 and 5 year old kids.
This lady asked a lot of questions and I described my show. I told her about the interactive aspects and that the show had a lot of comedy. I asked all the usual questions and thought I had all the information I needed. It turns out I should have asked one more question..."Do the kids speak English?". The show was for a Jewish family and none of the kids spoke English (or French as I live in Montreal). I had to mime most of the show and have a lady translate the essentials into Hebrew for me. Needless to say that none of the jokes got a laugh. Mike |
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magic4u02 Eternal Order Philadelphia, PA 15110 Posts |
But that is why magic works no matter where you go. Magic is the only universal language that everyone will understand. Of course you may have to change the show a round a little and pantomime different parts of it.
I have a hearing deficit and wear hearing aids. Because of this, I have learned to change my show around so that I can perform for the hearing impaired and do benefit shows for them. They still enjoy it just as much as any other audience. I just change the show a bit and pantomime a lot more in certain sections. Kyle
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RJE Inner circle 1848 Posts |
Bonjour Mike,
I remember one show I did in Montreal about 15 years ago. I don't remember the venue's name, but it was in a school auditorium. It was an evening show, open to the public and the place was packed with families, beaucoup des families francais. Unfortunately, back then my french was non existant (now it is barely functional, mais j'essaye) My show also has lots of audience participation and comedy. The only solution for this show though was to put an interpreter on the stage with me. The magic worked, the scripted comedy didn't, although there were a lot of laughs at my expense (which I gratefully accepted). Another time, I was doing a large auditorium show for families and there was an interpreter on stage, but this time, I didn't know she was there! I was introduced and the curtains opened about 3/4's of the way across the stage. I began the show and things were going well. As I stepped forward I saw out of the corner of my eye, a lady standing on the edge of the stage. It looked at first like she was waiving at someone. I thought, "What the heck is going on?" I stopped and looked over at her. She stopped and looked over at me and smiled. I asked,"Can I help you?" She then did her "waiving" again and answered me. No body had told me that there was a large group of deaf people in the crowd and that there was going to be a Sign Language Interpreter on the stage with me! Ya never know. Rob Hehe, it's fun to think back to some of the things that at the time were not all that funny. A number of years ago, I was part of a 3 act touring show that was booked to do fund raisers across various parts of Canada. We were based out of the Toronto area but covered pretty well all of the eastern part of the country doing our family show. We enjoyed each other's company and were in fact good friends. Both of the others are still performing and as well one is now the owner of an internationally renowned illusion building company, and the other one as well lectures around the world (to magicians) and was recently featured in the Linking Ring magazine. We would sometimes play pranks by sabotaging each other's props before they went on stage. Not enough to screw up the trick or routine, just enough to try and throw each other off, or to make you laugh. Things like showing a bag to be empty but when you turn it over, 1/2 a pound of confetti would pour out that you didn't know was there. Another prank occured in a show in Ottawa, Ontario. I would tell the audience that I was going to make a giant pack of playing cards appear by magic. The routine was that as I looked out at the audience, I would hold out my left arm and snap my fingers. While still looking at the audience, my assistant would scuttle across the stage and place the deck in my outstretched hand. I would then bring the deck in front of me and go, "Ta da!" A groaner, but it fit the fun mood of the show. Anyway, this day I outstretch the hand and no assistant and no cards. I broke character for a split second to look into the wings and CRASH from a catwalk 4 stories up came my jumbo deck of cards. They hit the stage about 3 feet from me and made me jump. From up above, there came a laugh so hard, I thought they would choke. They neat thing about all the pranks was that the audience would always get an extra laugh. They didn't know that anything different had happened, but all of our pranks were creative enough to play as gags to both us and the audience. It was the promoter's job to advertise the show and fill the seats. One Saturday, they flew us to Halifax (about 1000 miles or 1600 kilometres from Toronto) to do 3 shows in an afternoon and then they flew us back the next day. All three shows were in the same venue, again a school auditorium. The first show had about 150 people show up. The second show had about 35 people and the third show, nobody showed up. The promoter ran out and grabbed kids (figuratively speaking) playing in a local park and brought them in for the show so we would have an audience. I have no idea how the promoter stayed in business. Rob |
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