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gmeister Inner circle 1588 Posts |
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On 2012-01-28 22:22, Zombie Magic wrote: Yeah, except when he gets up for a drink he never asks if he can get us one. Extreme;y bad form! I love Docc and I love his web/docs, but next time he invites us to a Penty Party it would be nice if the cheap B*s**rd would let us know its BYOB! |
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ventman Loyal user 281 Posts |
I look forward to the explanation of how to know when to use the "secondary" or negative meanings for the various numbers vs. the "primary" positive ones according to the lotus patterns.
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caigy Inner circle England 1199 Posts |
I've booked my seat!!
Roll-on Thursday. Paul Mc.
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Zombie Magic Inner circle I went out for a beer and now have 8733 Posts |
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H2Odesign Regular user the Armpit of the Panhandle 193 Posts |
Well this may sound rude, or just unprofessionally unsportsmanlike but I'm really turned off by the Doccinar thing - going on as I... type.
I signed up for the Docc's email list just this morning, although I have been quite a follower and an owner of many of his published books and DVD sets. But due to an odd twist of fate I've been out of the mentalism computer world for over a month. So after seeing his "Window of your Future" page (can't even remember how I got to his site, I believe I was looking for an effect he performed on Desert Brainstorm) I went to fetch my Top Shelf kit to see if the combination with "Window of your Future" was something I already owned (I'm awesome with a memdeck, but not so hot on book titles and pamphlets) when I noticed the price "shot" up on everything. Needless to say, I already owned ‘How to Earn Top Dollar at Top End Night Clubs, Restaurants, and Bistros," so in the span of time it took me to realize this my hesitancy made it clear I was watching some bizarre form of inflation. Now just fifteen minutes before the beginning of this evenings presentation, I went to check Docc's site again to see if I was still interested and it happened again. I understand it's Docc's prerogative to change the price of his products as he wishes. It just appears quite dramatic, and for someone sort of "out-of-the-loop," nothing short of sticker shock to see this all jump 100% in just a matter of hours. Well, I love System 88, and consider myself a keen devotee to various methods of divination and a student of cold reading, but I guess I've been left in the dust on this. I should have realized that this morning, and just turned my computer back off. Oh well. Larry |
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seadog93 Inner circle 3200 Posts |
Well, to be fair, many of the item's on Docc's site have been posted at a discounted price for a long time.
It was made clear that these were discounted prices and he has been saying, both on the site and on the Café and in his newsletter that the prices were going to be going up. Of course it sucks to miss out on a deal, but I don't really know what else Docc could have done; except not offer the discount in the first place, but I'm glad he did.
"Love is the magician who pulls man out of his own hat" - Ben Hecht
"Love says 'I am everything.' Wisdom says 'I am nothing'. Between the two, my life flows." -Nisargadatta Maharaj Seadog=C-Dawg=C.ou.rtn.ey Kol.b |
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H2Odesign Regular user the Armpit of the Panhandle 193 Posts |
A long time ago my university coach said "Timing is everything."
It's a shame to have missed out on such discounts, and perhaps most would consider me a sore loser. But not to my recollection have I seen prices change on an advertised seminar and the associated published items in such a manner over so short time frame. Honest, all this would have seemed, well almost acceptable, had I been following this on the MC, or having received multiple emails/newsletters from the provider. I guess I just needed to express my awe with the experience, and had no intention of hurting any feelings. No doubt yesterday my timing sucked! Larry |
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seadog93 Inner circle 3200 Posts |
Fair enough.
Did you end up getting it though? It's pretty awesome and it's actually still at a major discount. It's $20 right now and it will eventually be $100, so yo definitely have not been left in the dust. The doccinar was great too. I was only able to see part of it (I came in right at the end of what looked like a really good section), but I look forward to dowloading it and re-watching it as soon as it is available.
"Love is the magician who pulls man out of his own hat" - Ben Hecht
"Love says 'I am everything.' Wisdom says 'I am nothing'. Between the two, my life flows." -Nisargadatta Maharaj Seadog=C-Dawg=C.ou.rtn.ey Kol.b |
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EricDraven Inner circle 1257 Posts |
Next Doccinar is evoque!
:) Nice!
Believe me...nothing is trivial...
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jrparkin New user 10 Posts |
I've got a query regarding the WOYF - which can probably only be answered by those who have this booklet.
It regards the pitch book, and in particular, the interpretation of the numbers on Page 10 (of the pitch book section). Numerology is quite new to me, so I'm currently learning all I can about it, but I have a specific question regarding the interpretation of the numbers. The book states that "Each number has itʼs primary meaning and an other side. You must look at the way the different numbers in the Lotus flower combine to determine which side is meant. Often BOTH sides of the number are indicated." My question is (and I'm not sure if this just applies to this system, or numerology in general) - how do you know when to look at the 'other side readings'? For example, if I looking at a square with the number 2 in it - would you give the primary reading or the 'other side reading' ? Or do you only look at the 'other side meanings' when there is a zero involved? I think that this will probably only make sense to those who have this booklet! :) |
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Docc Hilford V.I.P. 377 Posts |
Jr,
This question is covered in detail in the Doccinar. But for a quick answer here... You have the freedom to interpret the meanings in any way you need to do so. Don't be bound to a hard meaning. Be loose. Go in the direction you need to go according to your reading. If your client needs to hear the positive meanings, go there. If your client needs to hear the negative meanings, go there. If need be, give both meanings. In short - Be PSYCHIC. If you're considering actually doing reading with this system, rather than merely using it for entertainment, I suggest you get the Doccinar download. http://www.docchilfordproducts.com/repla......occinar/ Ask those here who have it. My best, Docc |
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magus Special user Huntington Beach, Ca 669 Posts |
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On 2012-01-28 13:31, Docc Hilford wrote: Sorry for being a year late... I never saw this post. Here's my notes on "Windows" WTYF notes Last Tip I promised, so here it is. I don't have to see repeat customers in person. I have additional blank cover sheets that I can e-mail to repeat clients. I ask her what number goes in the root number square and where she wants to start to window's construction. I do it on my end of the call and tell her, BY LETTER, what numbers go in the window! Yes! I get another payment via Paypal, and do the chart over the phone. The grid on the cover of the hand out book has letters to help in the descriptions of the lotus flowers. They could be used for Psychometry A-Z. When you hand out the books and someone asks you for a quick interpretation so that they don’t have to look up all that stuff. “The full system is quite complicated, the booklet is just a simplified version so that people can see what can be done, for a minimum of cost But, I would be happy to tell you a couple of things that are outside the range of the booklet.” Have her pick a lotus or a subject, decide on a scale of one to five how much this means to her, or how much it applies to her, or how many drinks she’s had, anything to vary which petal you select so you don’t read the same letters all the time, and give her a reading on that petal. In a private reading you could use this to give her a completely new reading from the one she got from the book. And it could be used several times (At least five, more with a bit of imagination) for repeat visits, even if she chooses the same petals every time. Just rotate clockwise (Or from top to bottom, or left to right, depending on the lotus) from the original starting point for each visit A couple of more Lotus’ found CKOMW “Large Cross” Rollover Cross’ DNXKL EOYLM Right/left cycle AKUMN BLVNO CHRPT UWYHM Up/down cycle ACEMR FHJRW AEUYM “Large X” (already in the instructions) Roll over X’s ABNUV BCOVW Right left cycle CDKWX DELXY FJRAE KOWFJ Up/down cycle PTCKO UYHPT AFGHM “Zig Zag Patterns” UVQLM These two occur on the left side of the Yantra, but not on the right. They are made by orienting the square so that the letter is in the upper left corner. Going down one and then to the right two squares, and then down one square. These do not occur on the left side of the Yantra. But… If the Magic square is filled out the same way as instructed, but to the left for both of the moves, it still works out as a magic square. But the zig zag patterns now show up on the right, and not on the left. Now you have doubled the amount of possible outcomes and have a new mystic selling point. A yin/yang possibility during the construction of the Yantra. Is the client left or right handed? Gay or straight? Man or woman? One more way of personalizing the reading. It might be a bit confusing, but if you can rotate the chart right or left, and write the numbers ninety degrees from the orientation of the chart, you have two more right and left options for filling out the chart. All apparently based on some secret rule of making the chart according to their personality. These patterns could be referred to as “The Hidden Lotus” “There are 71 known patterns of the lotus. Through my long study of these patterns and their meanings, I have discovered several that remained hidden in the ancient literature.” “I believe these to be the “Hidden symbols”, called this, because they were easy to find if you really studied this system, but also because they refer to a hidden, lost or forgotten side of your personality. Something that you have hidden from your friend and family, possibly, even to yourself.” Here is the place to insert information that most people will deny, but are, realistically, part of all of out lives. Since this is based on year of birth, search Passages by Gail Sheedy for additional lines Put them on a crib. 25-30, 30-35, 35-40, etc. Peg system for memorization, coded by age year (GN, 62, Gun linked to traits) In reference to the “Don’t reduce lower than 45” rule. If it gives you negative numbers- make that part of the spiel. Negative numbers mean failing health! There’s bound to be at least one negative number in each lotus blossom. Proof the system works. Older people HAVE failing health! Younger people with failing health- “It is part of your reality, it was not meant to be your fate” Using “arrows” from Webster’s quick readings with numerology. (Tic Tac Toe Numerology) You can find additional material to do reading from. In addition to the psychometry a-z using the letters on the grid. You could use a larger number list than 1-9. One for each number up to 100. Use one and two digit numbers from the grid, as opposed to the numerology breakdowns. Change the meanings of the individual squares. Center square is the least dramatic. Outside edges are the most dramatic. All the wraparound lotus blossoms have a more dramatic meaning, because they will contain two dramatic statements. (so will straight lines) Tell them about the “lost flowers”. Tell them to select flowers based on their personality. The less mundane their lives, the further from center they choose their flower. Base their rating on the center square. Find a reason for the straight lines being dramatic. Use some of the Major Arcana from the tarot (You have 25 squares and 22 Major Arcana) Judgement, change, romance, etc, are all good. Man, boy, Woman, Girl, boss, spouse, employee, message, travel, health, education, story elements. Set it up in rotating sets of three so any row of three will tell a story. Move over one square, to a set of three containing two elements from the last flower and a new one, and the story changes slightly. Lines have meanings, like Quick readings with numerology, maybe that’s why you don’t choose lines for a reading. Only flowers.
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Docc Hilford V.I.P. 377 Posts |
I see another video update with a guest!
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magus Special user Huntington Beach, Ca 669 Posts |
crappy deium-
what a lousy day to be seized thaumometer- a device for measuring a magical field |
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espkeith Veteran user CT, USA 354 Posts |
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On 2013-01-31 15:57, magus wrote: Thanks, Magus! Going to add the above to my notes for this. Great job! |
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magus Special user Huntington Beach, Ca 669 Posts |
Thanks, I hope you get some use out of this.
Pat
crappy deium-
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snm Special user 552 Posts |
I've tried getting ahold of Docc for the last few months with no luck. Does anyone know where I can get this?
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pulpscrypt Special user Within the shadows 581 Posts |
Not sure. Docc has gone underground. A lot of his stuff has gone up for sale on EBay and most links don't work.
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Wravyn Inner circle 3513 Posts |
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On Aug 19, 2022, pulpscrypt wrote: Something I noticed too. |
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EvojKam New user 27 Posts |
Contacted him for 2 month thru every single email, no reply
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