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LukeBrady New user 78 Posts |
I agree ArtIn. I personally have been doing metal bending consistantly, almost daily, for 7+ years and I can count on one hand the number of times people have asked me to bend a knife. I say a table is the best and still about as organic as you can get!
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inorthcott New user 90 Posts |
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On 2012-02-05 20:12, *double-A-magic* wrote: Of course if metal bending is not your style this will not be for you. For me this is amazing. Thank You David just stunning stuff. Ian
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rasmus Inner circle Switzerland 1696 Posts |
Hy for all the goodness in the world we have to bend a knife? why not bend
a car or an airplane or the statue of liberty? just kidding:) I do metalbending aswell a coupple of years now and perhaps this system is the way to go. I don't know anything about the gimmick. it would really be appriciated to see an entire presentation of it. would be easier for deciding to buy it or not. thanks david penn for your great ideas and inventions. best and good luck for the release of bionic
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Martin Waring Loyal user York, England 254 Posts |
I thought I'd wait until I'd actually performed with this at a gig before giving my thoughts. I did a kids party on Thursday and an adults party for about 90 folks last night. At the kids show I was wearing jeans with no jacket for most of the time as it was unseasonably mild here in York. For Friday's gig I was suited and booted.
The first thing to say is that despite the gimmick being in full view at the kids show all afternoon, it raised no interest whatsoever. I've been doing coinvexed for years since it first came out. I get many bookings from people who've seen me doing it at gigs and want me to do it for their party so I know how strong it is. I prefer the original coinvexed. I feel less confident with the mechanics of coinvexed 2. Well it's early days playing with Bionik but so far I'm delighted with the reactions I'm getting with this and I'm sure they will only get better. The mechanics of the effect are pretty straightforward. There's really nothing to stress about and you can focus on presentation. There's a couple of variations in presentation you can use for this shown on the DVD and some subtleties you can add. I've gone for the unsubtle approach and I've been using the Dee Christopher reveal which IMHO looks sensational. Before doing the reveal I pose a question: if you were stranded on a desert island which would you rather have a knife or a fork? If they say the fork I give them back the fork. If they say the knive I put the fork away in my pocket and either way I've got the knife ready to reveal the bend. The rest is acting. Don't do what I did and buy cheap knives from T....s. They are 4 for a quid and bend really easily but unfortunately you can bend them back with your little finger. You do want to ask your spec if they can bend the knife back. If they can it spoils the impact. For gigs I bought some tougher knives from a kitchen shop that cost me 90p each. So I''ve been looking for some remaindered knives today and found some at 6 for a pound which should work. So all in all it's a worker for me. I probably won't do this at every table, just the ones where folks are really into magic or have been warmed up a bit but I can't see this ending up in a drawer anytime soon. |
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jugglestruck Inner circle Wales 1038 Posts |
Thanks for the review Martin.
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saysold1 Eternal Order Recovering Cafe addict with only 10795 Posts |
Thanks Martin - how hard is the misdirection if I might ask?
Justified I'm sure?
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Martin Waring Loyal user York, England 254 Posts |
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On 2012-03-03 14:21, saysold1 wrote: Pretty easy if you follow the routine on the DVD which is well thought out but I'm sure you could come up with your own version too if you wanted. |
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benmagic1 Regular user London 182 Posts |
I bought this at the Blackpool convention in a bundle deal, I have not tried this as yet but I can see this as a really strong trick if you are in to metal bending ! I knew the method before I bought this and the gimmick is well made, if you want to bend a knife then this would be the perfect way to achieve this.
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markhitton Special user 964 Posts |
I hope this gimmick is different from the old belt gimmick.
if this is what I think is really good and useful. also suitable for bend handle of spoons and forks. |
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markhitton Special user 964 Posts |
Is the gimmick unconfortable to wear?
can be put on and hold for all the day? does it need a lot of misdirection without teh jacket cover? thanks everyone for the help. |
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Martin Waring Loyal user York, England 254 Posts |
Did a really wild hunt ball on Saturday night where I ended up performing for about 6 hours under arduous conditions. It was absolute mayhem and I exhausted both myself and my supply of knives.
In terms of comfort, you do need to adjust the gimmick a bit to suit you but its really no big deal. Last week I did a kids show in the afternoon with juggling outside as well so no jacket. Had the gimmick on me all the time with no issues or attention paid to it at all. |
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*double-A-magic* Loyal user Cheshire, England, UK 255 Posts |
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On 2012-02-28 11:23, inorthcott wrote: I'm struggling to understand why you quoted me and what point you are trying to make. My comment was merely just my opinion on the effect, it was only meant in the spirit of engaging with the magic community. I thought these threads were here for users to discuss the product, both those who want it and those who might pass on it. If you believed my comments to be malicious, in paticular with regards the recent controversy, then I assure you they weren't and my post on page 3 of this thread would back that up. Anyhoo - there's enough bickering on here without me getting involved so back to the Magic....!! I would like to venture in to metal bending and imagine I definitely will in the future. Bionik won't be my first purchase though, I'm still saving for Penn's other effect Coinvexed 2.0, not long now... AA
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FrenchDrop Inner circle I can name that tune in 1647 Posts |
AA, you said "Not for me as I'm not really in to metal bending." Ian replied "Of course if metal bending is not your style this will not be for you."
Where's the malice or bickering? I don't see any.
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*double-A-magic* Loyal user Cheshire, England, UK 255 Posts |
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On 2012-03-12 17:35, FrenchDrop wrote: I may have completely misread Ian's post and if that's the case then I apologise for my post. When I first read it I felt it was unnecessary to quote me and thought the context of his reply was defensive of the product and as if he thought I was one of the many users having a pop at David Penn on this thread. I just wanted to clear it up that I wasn't. Sorry if I have caused any unnecessary animosity, I certainly don't want to be making any enemies around here. AA
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markhitton Special user 964 Posts |
Bionik gimmick is a clever idea which relies on a gimmicked b..t I saw some years ago.
it is useful for a quick bending of silverware handles . misdirection is needed but following the instructions it is not difficult. the move is not to do in front of spec best turn the body quickly. the gimmick ,in my opinion,coulb be done in a better way. it is bulky,big and not so confortable . also the slot could be much more invisible and silent. in any case good gimmick but too expensive for my pockets. mark |
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Blindside785 Inner circle Olympia, WA 4541 Posts |
I was at Shari's with a group of people last night. The person I was sitting next to asked if I could bend a spoon, random, but I did. Great reactions to it, I was then asked about bending a knife. I came on here thinking about how nice of a routine this would be to have.
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MarcLavelle Loyal user Birmingham 260 Posts |
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On 2012-03-13 17:15, Blindside785 wrote: It's always the case, isn't it? I hate it when I get asked to do something I'm not set up for! |
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markhitton Special user 964 Posts |
Just a question.is there a routine for bending just one knife without the fork and the signature procedure?
I think it is necessary to turn around just a second to do the move. in this case if I have just one knife I must try to misdirect has someone tried a motivation for this kind of scenario? best mark |
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markhitton Special user 964 Posts |
No one has tried to do it with just a knife or with a different routine?
in the dvd david just show one routine with signature if am not wrong. best |
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Martin Waring Loyal user York, England 254 Posts |
Here's a picture of the after effects of Bionik. The effect is over and I'm going to my pocket to pull out something else. The gimmick, in theory should be in plain view but as you may or may not be able to tell, there's not much to see.
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