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Delimbeau
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Thanks Ben!
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I keep my cards in a 'Titanic' brand enamelled tea tin. I've used sandpaper and a grinder to remove some of the tell-tale graphics that give away the fact that the tin is contemporary, such as the bar code and website address, and to generally age and distress the tin. And inside that, along with the cards, I keep a number of 'Titanic' related items I've picked up here and there. It's a neat little package.
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On Feb 4, 2012, Bill Fienning wrote:
I give one spectator a "lucky" silver coin and the other spectator a copper penny that is not a lucky amulet. I show the cards one at a time to one or the other spectator. That spectator either accepts the card into a pile in front of him or rejects the card, so it goes into the reject pile in front of me. At the end, the spectator with the lucky coin has selected the passengers who lived. (Most of these were first class passengers, who were likely to have a lucky silver coin.) The other spectator who held the "not-so-lucky" copper coin selected the people who drowned. (The third class passengers would more likely have a copper penny in their pockets instead of a lucky silver coin.)

I ignore the reject pile in front of me.

PM me if you have questions about this.


Bill, I look me your idea of lucky coins. Since about the s condition time I performed White Star I had an idea and used my grandfather's antique pocket watch and a Morgan dollar as "tokens" (without saying anything about the Titanic) which perhaps will aid their "intuition" and "will have meaning a little later". Then aftet the sorting, etc, I finally reveal the tokens as having allegedly been used at the Titanic crisis, the watch by bursar timing the lifeboats and the coin flipped to determine who got the very last space on the last lifeboat.
"Pay no attention to that strange man behind the curtain" (it's only "Doc Benjamin from the Amazing Wizardelia Wagon")
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[quote]On May 30, 2017, DocBenWiz wrote:
[quote]On Jan 10, 2017, DocBenWiz wrote:
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On Jan 10, 2017, Vic Nadata wrote:
I, same as the good Witch Doctor, use it with a discard pile. However I do place them in a clear glass bowl. When showing the discard pile, it is very easy to give a quick mix. Always has worked for me.


Same here...always goes, over great. And I do not reveal anymof the Titanic theme until the moment of reveal. Start by handing one of two specs an antique pocket watch as "a token with which you may shortly connect in a manner of intuition" (later at the reveal, after some preliminary comments on the date and significance of the people involved and the "connecting event", described as "used by an officer on the Titanic to time the loading and lowering of lifeboats") and a Morgan silver dollar dated 1898, token, "used by two brothers to flip and decide who would be the last one to board a final lifeboat on which there was only one remaining space"

While specs are looking at final reveal photos (which I obtained as improved by Al Desmond) I pick up discard pile, mixing casually while commenting on the "randomness" of the pile. Discussion afterwards with or without the newspaper article which I also have.
Never been called out and goes over with quite the shocked reaction at the above reveal.

Used a couple weeks ago and follwed my above routine up to the reveal of the Titannic connection as I describe above, then pulled out the vintage newspaper and went into the fabulous "Fathoms" effect right afyer, with fantastic reactions and results with my "after dinner" couple!


Hey Guys, I just want to let you all know that I credit Al Desmond with the balance of my routine, from the pick up of the discard pile, and leading into the use of the newspaper and then the idea to lead in to the use of Fathoms. I also bought Al's improved photographs as well as his newspaper, ephemera.
I bought my White Star shortly after its release and by the second performance I independently decided (after finding my grandfather's antique pocket watch and a Morgan dollar from late 1800s) to use them as "tokens" in sort of an "intuitive psychometry" approach. I also decided not to mention or reveal the Titanic" connection until after the sorting at the end. I do credit Al Desmond, with many thanks, for the adapted script ideas subsequent to buying his photos and ephemera.
I hope this clarifies the credit acknowledgement for Al.
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My father purchased this effect when it first came out he said. I was impressed with it, being young and actually getting to see my father do something other than the chop cup or cups and balls.
I came across it last year and my father tutored me on it and I practiced my heart out on it. Now being from a family of magicians and growing up around magic I was not going to perform it until
I knew I was ready and would not slip up. To make.a long story short I had my friends over and they asked me to do some magic, so I did my fathers rendition of the cups and balls. I waited oh,
about a half hour or so and went into the routine of White Star. Not a single soul <no pun intended > caught me or saw right through it. Did I just get lucky? That was the one and only time
I ever did it for an audience. My favorite has always been Aunt Mary's Terrible Secret. The effect my friends like is the seance we have some times when they come over. I use a spirit bell and
it just blows them away and scares them at the same time.

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I have just stumbled upon this thread so I apologise for not commenting sooner. I think it is fantastic that so many people have made the trick and presentation their own. I do smile when people change the props, the method and the presentation, but that great. It's a storytelling effect and storytelling is a personal thing so it has to be changed to suit the performer. I am very proud of this effect and humbled when people go to the effort to make it their own.
I am sorry if some people have struggled with the method and sometimes when I perform I do feel guilty because it's so simple, the magic community have come up with lots of subtleties which help.
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I performed this during a Halloween show just three weeks ago. One of the guys in the group happens to be from Belfast, Ireland. I mentioned that I’d purchased the photo cards at the Titanic museum. He said,”in Belfast?” I replied, “No...Pigeon Forge, TN”.

I also added in the newspaper just prior to the reveal at the end, and I also use an old gold ring and a coin...the routine never fails to get an amazing response.
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On Nov 15, 2017, rickmagic1 wrote:
I performed this during a Halloween show just three weeks ago. One of the guys in the group happens to be from Belfast, Ireland. I mentioned that I’d purchased the photo cards at the Titanic museum. He said,”in Belfast?” I replied, “No...Pigeon Forge, TN”.

I also added in the newspaper just prior to the reveal at the end, and I also use an old gold ring and a coin...the routine never fails to get an amazing response.


Not to pat myself on the back, but I actually feel honored that you have used some of my routine suggestions.

For anyone new to this thread, I have graphics and a script for White Star, which a lot of performers are now using.

If you want the material, all you have to do is sent me an email requesting them.

I will ask you a question to make sure that you have actually purchased a White Star from Jim.

Please don't request this if you don't have an original.

Nothing in the script or the graphics I send will give away the method.

You have to have the original instructions. This script is ONLY for the two person routine that is detailed in the White Star instructions.

My email is newton@acrossthebow.com
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Hey Folks, I will "toot" Al Desmond's "boatswain's whistle for him....I was pretty happy with my personally adapted version of White Star, but getting Al's script, ideas and the newspaper prop really bumped up my overall routine! So, I heartily recommend getting Al's extra kit for this!
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Came across this thread and effect last month. Got the effect, and followed Al's storyline, advice and templates, plus purchased CDVs from flea markets to replace the original photos. This is a very powerful effect and relies on great storytelling. I picked up some Titanic repro artifacts and present them during the story line. All in all a great effect and goes well with my Victorian period presentation.
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