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Magic-Daniel Inner circle Denmark 1328 Posts |
Hi.
I'm always looking for non-card/coin effects to put into my repertoire. What dice effects would you suggest looking into? Thanks, Daniel |
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Mark Ross Loyal user Batavia, NY 236 Posts |
The Dr. Sachs routine in one of its versions is worth looking at,and you can carry two dice in your pocket all the time.
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TheAmbitiousCard Eternal Order Northern California 13425 Posts |
I just manufactured a batch of whip cups. A fantastic effect and works great with a gambling theme.
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mago.niko Loyal user Athens, Greece 286 Posts |
As Mark mentioned, Dr. Sachs dice routine is one of the best!! I also like Dai Vernon's Climax to a dice routine. You can find both of them in Daryl's Fooler Doolers DVDs.
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pabloinus Inner circle 1683 Posts |
Vernon routine in his book of magic is very nice
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boxjumper Veteran user 362 Posts |
I use in my close-up show Dice/No Dice from Kingdom of the Red.
It uses a gaff that you can make yourself. It's taught in the book Kingdom of the Red and also on the companion DVD. I bought the "kit" with all the props and 1 inch dice from the author Larry Barnowsky on his website. The routine has several stages each with its own climax, uses some basic sleights but the gaff makes everything easier. You can also use dice for routines normally associated with coins. For example, using say four dice and a hidden extra you can do a winged silver or coins across with basic palming. You could do a dice through the table as well. BJ |
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silverking Inner circle 4574 Posts |
Ken Brooke's "Poker Pot" is brilliant.
It's kind of hard to find, and there's not a lot of them around..........of course that also means that it's highly likely that anybody you show it to has never seen it before! Sol Stone also has a nice routine, it requires a gaffed die (which comes with his DVD). Daryl's non-gaffed dice chinka on Fooler Doolers is also worth a look. |
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Dave V Inner circle Las Vegas, NV 4824 Posts |
Charlie Frye also has a great dice matrix on one of his Eccentricks DVDs. It's not totally ungimmicked, but the end result looks great!
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rmendez Inner circle San Antonio, Texas 1253 Posts |
Three of my favorite dice effects include:
1. Dice Stacking http://www.theambitiouscard.com/ 2. Bob Sheets' "It's The Rules" DVD http://www.penguinmagic.com/p/S5901 3. Alan Wakeling's Loaded Dice http://www.vikingmagic.com/?nd=full&key=522 There is also Daryl's Dicey Dots which appears to be a little difficult to find these days. All very strong effects that are a part of my professional performing repertoire and come highly recommended. |
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RevJohn Inner circle Oregon City Oregon, Oregon 2473 Posts |
In David Regal's book, "Close-up and Personal," he has a nice quick dice effect that I find plays really well leading into Dicey Dots, by Daryl.
Ivory Connection by Steve Dobson and Reed McClintock is a nice variation of Dr. Sach's routine. RevJohn |
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giobbi1 Loyal user 252 Posts |
I LOVE Dr. Sachs. I do it in every set and it gets a great reaction. Head shaking, rubbing the eyes reactions. I always thought it would be a great idea to add Sheet's "It's The Rules" as an addition to Sachs when time permits. Saying something like "here. Maybe these will be easier to follow." I just haven't learned Sheets routine yet.
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rmendez Inner circle San Antonio, Texas 1253 Posts |
Although I have studied and love Dr. Sachs work. I consider Bob Sheets' moves and routine a natural progression as he mentions in the introduction of his DVD. His modifications allows for the performer to perform the routine center stage in front of his face as opposed to off to the side. Also, the moves appear more natural and deceptive because they break the moves into quarter turns vs. half turns. Finally, unlike most, this routine includes a real climax ending where the numbers are shown in sequential order four times on only two sides. Performers of this routine will concur that this one was a quantum leap from the brilliant mind of it's creator.
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rmendez Inner circle San Antonio, Texas 1253 Posts |
Another advantage is the elimination of the inherent, ackward, and unavoidable resulting finger positions that are a by product of the traditional half turns. The perspective this routine is performed from masks the very subtle movements needed to achieve the changes. It takes full advantage of finger and knuckle placement in addition to the natural loss of depth perception by the audience. What the audience witnesses is a very convincing illusion that the pips are simply changing on command. It has a very organic feel and can be done with any dice, anywhere and anytime. I abandoned Ivory Connection immediatly when I saw this routine performed by a fellow magician in the area.
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Chris Meece Special user Somerset Kentucky 864 Posts |
Frank, you need to make a pocket dice case for carrying 2 casino dice. (Well maybe you don't need to .. but I need you to. ) I was using your Zipper Coin Purse to carry mine around before. All my half dollars would sit in the bottom and I had room for the two dice on the top. I just purchased Come Fly With Me and the morgans totally screw up my purse management. You can't comfortably carry casino dice in your pocket, they cut into your leg. Maybe your small coin bag would do the trick. I could carry my coins and dice in it. I would be losing out on the fabric liner, though.
By the way Bob Sheets' "It's The Rules" absolutely kills and it is a blast performing.
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TheAmbitiousCard Eternal Order Northern California 13425 Posts |
I do make exactly that Chris. I'm not sure if I have any left or not. It's not a standard item but we made a batch and sold them
when people asked for them. I might have just boxed up the last one Saturday, in fact. I'll check and let you know.
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Chris Meece Special user Somerset Kentucky 864 Posts |
Awesome! I am still feeling conflicted talking about purse management after starting a thread selling the manliest coin set ever made.
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giobbi1 Loyal user 252 Posts |
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On 2012-04-04 11:05, Chris Meece wrote: You're right. The casino dice do have sharp edges. That shouldn't be an issue with the Sheets dice. The ones he provided are rounded on the edges and corners. I need to learn that to go with Sach's. |
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Chris Meece Special user Somerset Kentucky 864 Posts |
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On 2012-04-04 12:26, giobbi1 wrote: I didn't get dice with mine. I like the look of casino dice better, anyway. I was at Fort Harrod last year for an Indian attack reenactment and was showing a group "It's the rules." A shop owner asked me if I could do it with some of his wooden dice. I looked them over, some were not made correctly, the pips didn't add up correctly. I found a set that would work and was able to easily pull it off with it. (The routine is just that good) The shop owner insisted that I keep the set.
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bishthemagish Inner circle 6013 Posts |
There is some great dice stuff in the Ed Marlo book shoot the works. Also I suggest - check out dice stacking. Jim Ryan used to make a close up gem out of dice stacking.
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Bill Palmer Eternal Order Only Jonathan Townsend has more than 24312 Posts |
In Routined Manipulation Finale there is a routine by Ali Bongo called "Deolali Dice." (Deolali is pronounced DOO lolly -- Bongo told me that when he lived in India, "going Deolali" meant going crazy.) I originally learned it from Brick Tilley. But I used the instructions in the Ganson book to get the props right. Generally, it works best if you are seated, but I think you can work around it. It's a clever routine with growing and shrinking dice.
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