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Peter Nardi Inner circle 2238 Posts |
Totally agree Cameron. I perform iLogo every day and the reactions are super strong. This to me is as strong as it gets, magic that looks off the cuff with a spectators object. What's not to love!
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Tonylew Regular user Tracy, CA 184 Posts |
Once again I readily concede the fact that my opinion is clearly contrary to that of the majority of my fellow members. However, I did get three private PM's from others who agreed with me.
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Zombie Magic Inner circle I went out for a beer and now have 8733 Posts |
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On 2012-05-01 14:57, Tonylew wrote: Tony, anytime someone goes against the majority, they take a hit. Your opinion is as valid as anyone. I think a professional performer can get a great deal of mileage out of this trick. In the hands of a Gary Jones or Greg Wilson, it will be wonderful. Most will order this and go "oh, ok" and sell it. Not that it's bad, or doesn't work, but you have to carry the gimmick and have it in place. Hobbyists such as myself won't go to the trouble. I've seen it in action and it works great. Well worth the money if you are going to use it. I love using IT. Most don't because of the restrictions. To each their own on these things. |
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Tonylew Regular user Tracy, CA 184 Posts |
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On 2012-05-01 15:47, Zombie Magic wrote: That is a great objective analysis by someone who is *using the effect successfully*. The continually large number of offerings in the "Let's make a deal" forum of the Café attests to the fact that in the world of magic, one size does not fit all. |
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movemonkey Loyal user Detroit, USA 210 Posts |
I think if you don't want to use the hank version... its very angly for walkaround, no way to do loading and unloading with people behind you or on the side
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matt.magicman Inner circle Mars 1524 Posts |
Cool, you lots top using it and I will claim universal domination for having super powers when holding a borrowed iPhone
Happy days ) |
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Peter Nardi Inner circle 2238 Posts |
You and me both Matt
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Sean Giles Inner circle Cambridge/ UK 3517 Posts |
I was really dubious about this. I didn't think it would fly... Then I tried it and Wow! This is one of those effects where the more intelligent the spec is, the harder it hits.
It has to be their iPhone though. Much, much better reactions when it's not my phone. Best Sean |
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Magicsquared Inner circle 1262 Posts |
I'm not sure the argument is "is this a good or bad effect," to me the argument is "do I perform in the types of situations and am I the type of performer who will get use out of this effect."
I think the initial phase of this trick is beautiful, I think the clean-up is kind of ugly. The problem some performers have (and I'm one of them) is that I would never alter something and then be really coy about letting them see it, examine it, and experience it in that altered form. To me that's just not how someone would do it for REAL. (In reality, if someone could move the logo on the back of YOUR iphone you'd probably not want it put back in place, or at least you'd want to hold the iphone yourself with it in that condition.) But that's also because 98% of the performing I do is in a casual environment. Hanging out with friends or at a bar or whatever. Situations where it doesn't make sense to have an authoritarian tone in regards to the pace you're performing and what you're letting people see or not see. But for a strolling gig, or any other situation where people feel like they're watching a "show" and not "something interesting my friend/acquaintance is showing me," I think you can get away with dictating how people interact with you and your presentation. And in those circumstances I'm sure this is a great effect. |
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Sean Giles Inner circle Cambridge/ UK 3517 Posts |
People know it's sleight of hand. It's about a suspension of belief in a moment of time. Like the cinema. People don't think you're doing REAL magic, unless you're performing for children.
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Zombie Magic Inner circle I went out for a beer and now have 8733 Posts |
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On 2012-05-02 22:36, Sean Giles wrote: Well.......sometimes people can "believe". "Smart" people too. Steve Shaw ( Banachek ) fooled scientists. Depends what you do, how you do it and where you do it. Strolling environment, they know it's a trick. Do something unexplainable in a non-performing environment, and some people will believe, depending on what you do. |
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Magicsquared Inner circle 1262 Posts |
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On 2012-05-02 22:36, Sean Giles wrote: That's an awfully limited way to look at things. Either they believe in magic or they overlook the obvious methodology and suspend their belief? Those aren't your only two options. I've spent 20 years performing for people who don't fit in either category. They are people who don't believe in magic but at the same time they're completely astonished by it and they're not just playing along or suspending their belief. I would never perform something where I wanted my audience to suspend their belief. I don't want their help. I want them engaged with me and engaged with what I'm showing them. I want them to feel like we're having a genuine interaction, not that they're watching a "show." And that was the point of my earlier post. I think this effect is best done under the pretenses of a "show" or a "performance." (In which case I'm sure it goes over great.) But in a more casual context -- chatting at a bar with someone -- I don't think it's ideal because the spectator doesn't really get to LIVE with that changed object, even for a few moments. And especially because it's their phone, that feels kind of awkward to me and the manner in which I perform. For others this is going to be a non-issue. They won't have a problem with borrowing a phone, moving the logo, then moving it right back. And if that fits your style/environment then from everything I've heard, this is a great effect/gimmick for that. |
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MaxfieldsMagic Inner circle Instead of practicing, I made 3009 Posts |
Very nicely made gimmick, and the DVD is full of great ideas. This is a terrific effect. It's just offbeat and hip enough to really round out a set.
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richard rain New user Indonesia 31 Posts |
I hope this gimmick have 2.0 version
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Peter Nardi Inner circle 2238 Posts |
I Perform this offbeat all the time. If I see someone with an iPhone I do it. Never had a bad reactionwitho it. To me iLogo is a perfect piece of weird , that people keep talking about long after the effect has ended.
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mike donoghue Inner circle 1295 Posts |
I have this with me everytime I work, and will be using it again today at a wedding at the Juuges Hotel in Yarm. I combine it with Daniel Garcias "PRESSURE" which if done correctly with the right pace goes down well.
When you ask to borrow a phone there's allways more than one available, and if someone brings out the 4 or 4s, then I do both effects. Got to say Peter, this is another quality release that gives people the Dynamo type reactions( without any stooging lol). But that's what you can expect from ALAKAZAM. TOP QUALITY REAL WORLD MAGIC. 10 out of 10. MIKE DONOGHUE |
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movemonkey Loyal user Detroit, USA 210 Posts |
Is that only me or the gimmick is misaligned with the Iphone 4S camera hole?
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Peter Nardi Inner circle 2238 Posts |
I haven't noticed any misalignment with the gimmick? Maybe try changing the pressure of your grip on the phone. To tight a grip can cause the gimmick to slip down the phone a little
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Jamie Ferguson Inner circle Alba Gu Brà th 3640 Posts |
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On 2012-04-20 08:22, king2262 wrote: Any update here Peter?
When the chips are down, the duvet is uncomfortable.
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intheillusion New user Miami, FL 34 Posts |
I have both white and black gimmicks and the camera hole is misaligned with the Iphone 4S camera hole. I've been moving it down a little to align it or covering the entire hole with my thumb.
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