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Isn't this the very kind of issue that all manufacturers face? Wonder how they all do it too? If I had to wonder that much I just wouldn’t bother...

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On 2012-03-01 23:24, J-Mac wrote:
Isn't this the very kind of issue that all manufacturers face?

It is...but in virtually every case, it's possible to know who's running the show and whether that person has applicable experience that will make success more likely. In the case of Real Secrets, it's impossible to know if the person(s) in charge have any track record with magic publishing, periodicals, manufacturing, business...'cause we don't know who they are. Because, for some reason that hasn't been adequately explained, that's how they want it.
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What Real Secrets wants most to keep "secret" is that "$12 month" is actually $288 for 2 years.
The great trouble with magicians is the fact that they believe when they have bought a certain trick or piece of apparatus, and know the method or procedure, that they are full-fledged mystifiers. -- Harry Houdini
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On 2012-03-02 03:22, sirbrad wrote:
What Real Secrets wants most to keep "secret" is that "$12 month" is actually $288 for 2 years.

So what? I've subscribed and can cancel at any time if it turns out to be a load of rubbish.
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Not sure where you get these stats. If you want to join for three months, it's $36 for three months. If you want to cancel at the end of the three months just cancel.Paypal is easy.

Sirbrad, really, just don't join ok? I joined, I am excited. Your rant is beyond tired. In your magic show do you just keep doing the same trick over and over again, cause you need some new material for this thread.

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On 2012-03-02 03:22, sirbrad wrote:
What Real Secrets wants most to keep "secret" is that "$12 month" is actually $288 for 2 years.
Still with the Chinese circus Smile
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On 2012-03-02 06:43, Xiqual wrote:
Sirbrad, really, just don't join ok? I joined, I am excited. Your rant is beyond tired. In your magic show do you just keep doing the same trick over and over again, cause you need some new material for this thread.

I agree. His posts are getting really, really annoying. No offense.
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On 2012-03-02 11:48, JCheng wrote:
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On 2012-03-02 06:43, Xiqual wrote:
Sirbrad, really, just don't join ok? I joined, I am excited. Your rant is beyond tired. In your magic show do you just keep doing the same trick over and over again, cause you need some new material for this thread.

I agree. His posts are getting really, really annoying. No offense.

sirbrad has posted more than anyone in this thread yet doesn't want to sign up to Real Secrets. I wonder what his 'real secret' is Smile
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On 2012-03-02 16:18, Jamie Ferguson wrote:
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On 2012-03-02 11:48, JCheng wrote:
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On 2012-03-02 06:43, Xiqual wrote:
Sirbrad, really, just don't join ok? I joined, I am excited. Your rant is beyond tired. In your magic show do you just keep doing the same trick over and over again, cause you need some new material for this thread.

I agree. His posts are getting really, really annoying. No offense.

sirbrad has posted more than anyone in this thread yet doesn't want to sign up to Real Secrets. I wonder what his 'real secret' is Smile

Noooo! Don't ask that question! He is going to come and say the same thing again!
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Considering the number of my ex-wives, I guess I'm a gambler. I'm in.....

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Equally as tiring as the blind support for a blind product from the Real Secrets blind magicians bandwagon. How's that for difference? I thought my opinions would be elightening and maybe informative for those who actually like to know what they buy. But many magicians are thick-headed, yet complain later when they feel ripped off even though they were warned. It is tiring also that many of these impulse buyers lack common sense when it comes to consumerism. But whatever, go waste some more money. Like it or not this is a discussion forum, and usally has two opposing sides. The parade is not always bright and sunny. That is what forums are for discussing apposing viewpoints. Don't like don't read it. Just put the blinders back on.
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Brad, your last post claimed there was a cabal of people trying to keep secret that 12 times 24 equals 288. That is not a secret and no one is trying to keep that a secret, that is simple arithmatic.

"What Real Secrets wants most to keep "secret" is that "$12 month" is actually $288 for 2 years." That is no discussion, that is babbling.

You've made your points. You cannot keep us foolish people from wasting our money. Thanks for trying.

Owe ya a beer.
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On 2012-03-02 16:18, Jamie Ferguson wrote:
[sirbrad has posted more than anyone in this thread yet doesn't want to sign up to Real Secrets. I wonder what his 'real secret' is Smile


My real secret is that I don't buy magic based on impulse, especially a product that I cannot see or review, or a product that has no info and a sketchy website that is not secure. Of course most who make competent and informed purchases would not call that a secret, they would call it common sense. I guess the world of gullible magicians do not want to be saved. I tried. Enjoy your material that most other magicians do not have. At least you can brag about that and tell them all about the cool effects in great detail. Oh wait no you can't... But I am sure I have material in books from the early 1900's that many other magicians do not have, and I can tell them all about it if I choose, and I won't be kicked out of a self-righteous, elite club that has a recurring bill each year. The best secrets are actually the ones that are hidden out in the open. But continue on with the false hype and excitement.
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On 2012-03-02 17:06, JCheng wrote:
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On 2012-03-02 16:18, Jamie Ferguson wrote:
sirbrad has posted more than anyone in this thread yet doesn't want to sign up to Real Secrets. I wonder what his 'real secret' is Smile

Noooo! Don't ask that question! He is going to come and say the same thing again!


Too late.
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You are not offering opinions, just hackneyed jokes that are not even trite or corny, just stupid. Some just downright ridiculous and a bit sad.

This whole quote is a perfect example.
"I am sure you will also have the same recurring payment for 40 years lol. Would also be funny if the message said "You silly, self-righteous, impulse buying magician! Just how many tricks do you really need? Go pick up Tarbell. That is your secret for this month." "Oh yeah one more thing, I have a golden bridge in Africa to sell you also if interested." I bet they also send an empty box, which would enrage many magicians. Until they have to chase down the garbage man to dig it out of the garbage truck in search of the hidden card gaff that was placed inside the cardboard."

It's like Henny Youngman came back from the dead. In one paragraph you proposed three different ludicrous scenarios of what will "probably" happen.

Sirbrad, actually, you will never know. Cause, It's a SECRET! a REAL SECRET! No, it's a REALREALREALREALREALREALREALREALREAL S-E-C-R-E-T!!!!!!
Double secreted actualized methodological hermetically sealed secret.
lol,
James



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I thought my opinions would be elightening and maybe informative for those who actually like to know what they buy.
Still with the Chinese circus Smile
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My jokes are hilarious, especially to those with half a brain and who don't have a Real Secrets stick up their butt. Keep buying invisible material though that you know nothing about. I guess it only further proves that everything that you have bought so far was crap, so it must be a vicious cycle to break. I was just shocked to see how many gullible magicians will buy anything put out, even if there is no product to be seen. I don't need to know any more secrets, I have about 2,000 books filled with more than enough on my bookshelf dating back 32 years. I would not be surprised if these so called "Real Secrets" were just ideas taken from them like most "new material" is. So I probably already have them all anyway.
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On 2012-03-03 02:11, Xiqual wrote:
You are not offering opinions, just hackneyed jokes that are not even trite or corny, just stupid. Some just downright ridiculous and a bit sad.



You mean like the majority of your posts here? Smile Yeah you are REAL popular with the crowd here. I think it would be even more hilarious if I actually ordered the product "secretly", and I am just trying to rile up certain members who take online forums so seriously. Maybe I am playing devil's advocate for my own persoal entertainment? But that will remain a "secret." You can find out the answer though if you send me $50 via Paypal.
The great trouble with magicians is the fact that they believe when they have bought a certain trick or piece of apparatus, and know the method or procedure, that they are full-fledged mystifiers. -- Harry Houdini
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Maybe I don't want these "Real Secrets" getting out there. But what is wrong with a few responsible buyers laughing at irresponsible, impulse buyers who can't go one day without a new magic fix?
The great trouble with magicians is the fact that they believe when they have bought a certain trick or piece of apparatus, and know the method or procedure, that they are full-fledged mystifiers. -- Harry Houdini
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I don't post here for popularity. I just post what I see to be the truth. I am sure YOU think you are hilarious.
You seem a bit delusional if truth was told.
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You mean like the majority of your posts here? Smile Yeah you are REAL popular with the crowd here. I think it would be even more hilarious if I actually ordered the product "secretly", and I am just trying to rile up certain members who take online forums so seriously. Maybe I am playing devil's advocate for my own persoal entertainment? But that will remain a "secret." You can find out the answer though if you send me $50 via Paypal.
Still with the Chinese circus Smile
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You post the truth that YOU believe so you are the one who is delusional. I post the truth that actually is the truth. No one is going to change anyone's viewpoint, I won't lose any money or sleep over it but you may or may not lose both. Hope you got another junk drawer ready just in case it bombs.
The great trouble with magicians is the fact that they believe when they have bought a certain trick or piece of apparatus, and know the method or procedure, that they are full-fledged mystifiers. -- Harry Houdini
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You are also delusional if you think this material will never be posted public anywhere or on Youtube. Won't be so "exclusive" then will it?
The great trouble with magicians is the fact that they believe when they have bought a certain trick or piece of apparatus, and know the method or procedure, that they are full-fledged mystifiers. -- Harry Houdini
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