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Maybe average effects but not the more popular ones. Heck the stealth Pen, Raven, Bite out quarter, Healed and Sealed, and Born To Perform at Penguin sold that many in a week, and many others thanks to Blaine specials. I also highly doubt they were all platinum orders, he simply made that up to boost the cost up. I am betting most are regular and 3 month subscriptions. If they are advertising elsewhere that is even MORE of a FAIL. I would consider anything less than 5,000 a FAIL. Like I said before if it is truly $12 a month, and so "great" give us an option to pay monthly without any commitments. They can't do that because the product does not exist which is why they need all the full year's payments to produce it.
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Why DO people think writing FAIL in CAPS is more persuasive than using the word 'failure'?

It is aggressive, loud, annoying and ultimately boring: like watching a toothless dog chasing its own tail. A failure of wit, a failure of grammar, and a collosal failure as entertainment.
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I agree; anyone who would use "fail" as a noun is a huge FAIL!
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It's slang and more fun. You both FAIL. Using the full term is for "boring" people who like to act as though a discussion forum is a college term paper. When all you got left is to study and critique a forum member's grammar on a magic forum, well you are a FAILURE in life most likely. So at least I am giving you something to do so you feel revelant. Any more personal attacks or should we go back to discussing why you should not waste money on Real Secrets?
The great trouble with magicians is the fact that they believe when they have bought a certain trick or piece of apparatus, and know the method or procedure, that they are full-fledged mystifiers. -- Harry Houdini
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On 2012-03-07 14:49, tomsk192 wrote:
Why DO people think writing FAIL in CAPS is more persuasive than using the word 'failure'?

It is aggressive, loud, annoying and ultimately boring: like watching a toothless dog chasing its own tail. A failure of wit, a failure of grammar, and a collosal failure as entertainment.


You just proved that writing only FAIL is far more persuasive. Persuasive enough for you to want to make a post about it. Looks like you FAILED to prove anything expect that I was right. Smile

EPIC FAIL!
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On 2012-03-07 13:53, Atom3339 wrote:
I'd like this Topic locked.

But not until I start a new Topic in Latest And Greatest about my NEW EXCITING OPPORTUNITY for ALL magicians, hobbyists, amateurs and pros!

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Now it's not really those guys, but my buddy Jim has a Southern accent like Ammar and can do a pretty convincing French Drop.

A guy in the office, Smitty, also has a lot of kinetic energy like Sankey. I gave him a large black Marks-A-Lot to create the mind-blowing Shadow Chips Routine you'll use immediately at your next venue, whether sitting, standing or reclined!

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Notice our subscription fee is less than the competitor! IF there were a competitor, that is. Of course, you'll be locked into a five year commitment, but we buried that in the fine print using a 3 font.

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(Atom3339 saunters off to his library to study Hilliard, Tarbell and Bobo....)


Real Secrets may file a lawsuit for stealing their idea, and will now want "more money" from you.
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On 2012-03-07 15:46, sirbrad wrote:
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On 2012-03-07 14:49, tomsk192 wrote:
Why DO people think writing FAIL in CAPS is more persuasive than using the word 'failure'?

It is aggressive, loud, annoying and ultimately boring: like watching a toothless dog chasing its own tail. A failure of wit, a failure of grammar, and a collosal failure as entertainment.


You just proved that writing only FAIL is far more persuasive. Persuasive enough for you to want to make a post about it. Looks like you FAILED to prove anything expect that I was right. Smile

EPIC FAIL!


Perhaps my post was about you, rather than to you?

Reminds me of a joke about boring p****s,

How do they change a lightbulb? Stand on a stool and wait for the room to revolve around them.

It must be awfully dark in your house, sirbrad.

(this one was addressed to you)
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No it is very well lit actually. The Café is the only dark place, although slightly brighter than Ellusionist. My "real life" is very positive and full of great things, and just because I am honest and outspoken about a magic product does not make my house, or life dark and negative. You are the one focusing on the negative, and falsely perceiving it as such simply because it opposed your own opinion. Or maybe it is just an alter-ego used to rile up people who take online forums far too seriously, and used for my own and other's entertainment? Who knows? Maybe I could call you overly optimistic? But I prefer not to engage in "childish name-calling" as many here do, and foucs on the product. But I think based on the fact that there is nothing else for anyone to talk about now except my posts, only further proves my point about this "secret" product. Case closed.
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On 2012-03-07 11:35, sirbrad wrote:

I am trying to save the magic world.


My, aren’t we the omniscient deity. Sorry, I forget to mention humble as well. Smile
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I think he was being sarcastic.
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And I might add, succeeding quite well at it.
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Absolutely! I also really like the idea of getting a mystery box. I bought a Creative magic portion and it is really fun.
No need to compare, I understand Creative magic is much more transparent than Real Secrets.
James


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On 2012-03-07 11:32, GaryLee wrote:
It'll all come down to a matter of opinion and personal taste. What might be a terrible effect to one person may turn out to be the staple for someone else. I know sometimes I hate a trick that someone else loves. It's not because I'm right and they're wrong, it's a matter of taste and opinion. Some people can see the use of things that others discard as being useless and uneffective.
Still with the Chinese circus Smile
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On 2012-03-07 15:39, sirbrad wrote:
It's slang and more fun. You both FAIL. Using the full term is for "boring" people who like to act as though a discussion forum is a college term paper.

...or people who aren't in their teens.
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Reminds me of a joke about boring p****s,

How do they change a lightbulb? Stand on a stool and wait for the room to revolve around them.

:lol:
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Wow, this thread has morphed into serious glares and "I don't like you" school yard recess rock throwing. No longer any fun. Adios...
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Wait, who's gonna be our chopped liver now?!
"A great magician has said of his profession that its practitioners '… must pound and rack their brains to make the least learning go in, but quarrelling always comes very naturally to them.'” -- Susanna Clarke, Jonathan Strange and Mr Norrell
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I'm Eddie Garland and I keep Real Secrets.
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On 2012-03-07 19:56, Eddie Garland wrote:
I'm Eddie Garland and I keep Real Secrets.


Of course, you're from Hell's Kitchen. Not hot like it was in the 70's......but a great place where street guys still have a code!
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Quite honestly, the success or failure of this venture will be judged by two criteria:

1) The money that they put in their pockets once the dust settles

2) The customers' reaction

Even if they only net .5% of the members of this forum, that still adds up to big bucks. If that .5% of them are pleased with their purchase, then you have the opportunity to expand your customer base.

Regardless of it all, the group that is working this scheme is making money while the rest of us are sat here, on our collective ass, whining.

Mike.
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