|
|
|
|||
| Go to page [Previous] 1~2~3..10..17..24..31..35~36~37~38~39..47..54..61..68..75..77~78~79 [Next] | ||||||||||
newguy Elite user 411 Posts 
|
Billmarq
Jump back in! Leave the billing button alone If you don't like it, you can cancel (if they don't cancel you first!) |
|||||||||
Xiqual Inner circle Upper left quadrant 4937 Posts
|
Billmarq,
I have found that the only thing that will make me a better magician is actually performing. I am buying into Real Secrets for the "WEEEEEEEEEE" factor. There is a lot of magic out there, too much. I have personally found that 99% is useless tripe. In my pro show, it's all classics. Linking rings 6 ring, 12 inch set, cups and balls, eggbag. That's what audiences want to see. I know magicians hate those effects but the public eats them up. For me, and me alone, I am in Real Secrets for the fun and absolute hedonism of it. James ps Did I mention I am REALLY excited!! Quote: On 2012-03-17 18:00, billmarq wrote:
Still with the Chinese circus
|
|||||||||
|
FrenchDrop Inner circle I can name that tune in 1647 Posts
|
James, they should quote you in their ads.
"WEEEEEEEEEE" -- Xiqual ;)
"A great magician has said of his profession that its practitioners '… must pound and rack their brains to make the least learning go in, but quarrelling always comes very naturally to them.'” -- Susanna Clarke, Jonathan Strange and Mr Norrell
|
|||||||||
|
Xiqual Inner circle Upper left quadrant 4937 Posts
|
LOL! But then I couldn't tell anybody. It would have to be "XXXXXXXX"-Xiqual
James Quote: On 2012-03-17 22:17, FrenchDrop wrote:
Still with the Chinese circus
|
|||||||||
|
FrenchDrop Inner circle I can name that tune in 1647 Posts
|
By the way, James, the thing about all those tried-and-true classics is this: They're boring to magicians AND laymen...IF the performer doesn't bring something special to them. If the performance is not inspired, even laymen will find them trite and disappointing. But if your linking rings, egg bag, etc. are anything like your cups & balls, as seen in the clip on this thread -- the sheer energy, and especially the finish -- I feel confident you're a performer who brings something special to the classics. THAT's what audiences want to see, whether they're magicians or laymen.
Sorry to embarrass you again, but it had to be said. 
"A great magician has said of his profession that its practitioners '… must pound and rack their brains to make the least learning go in, but quarrelling always comes very naturally to them.'” -- Susanna Clarke, Jonathan Strange and Mr Norrell
|
|||||||||
|
Tom G Inner circle SW Michigan 2932 Posts
|
Thinking of all the PDFs I bought and are neither original or worth the paper I printed them on, and the one trick DVDs that were crap, I'll
gamble on RS. |
|||||||||
billmarq Special user State near Arizona 570 Posts
|
A few weeks ago, even before RS appeared on the scene, I started work on a video that satirizes the way "magic" is marketed. I put it aside because I was not happy with the technical aspects of the video and audio (I am a one-man studio), but given my negative experience with RS, I am reviving my efforts to make a decent video out of the footage.
It is titled The Magic Shopping Network and uses the HSN and QVC as models for the parody. I wish I had been familiar with the RS business model prior to writing and taping the piece. Hopefully I can get 'er done and amuse a few of you. I don't think the general public would "get it."
Honi soit quit mal y pense.
|
|||||||||
|
insight Inner circle 3095 Posts
|
Out of curiosity, to what extent does price impact level of secrecy that a purchaser of Real Secrets is willing to accept? For example, if the price was $5,000 for an annual subscription, would you as a purchaser require greater transparency?
Regards, Mike |
|||||||||
|
newguy Elite user 411 Posts
|
Mike, to me the opposite question is more important
If someone will not protect a ten cent secret, how can he be trusted to keep a thousand dollar secret? |
|||||||||
|
Failed Magician Inner circle Still working on the DL even after made 2055 Posts
|
Billmarq, what bad experience did you get? It seems this thread will be an endless one.
Magic comes through perception. -HS
|
|||||||||
|
insight Inner circle 3095 Posts
|
Real Secrets...few more weeks, and the excitement begins!!!
Regards, Mike |
|||||||||
|
billmarq Special user State near Arizona 570 Posts
|
Quote:
On 2012-03-18 03:00, Failed Magician wrote: I don't want to rehash my complaint which exists earlier in this thread but if we try hard enough we can surpass the Industrial Revelations thread in number of posts and views. If you noticed, at one point this thread disappeared from the first page of Latest and Greatest only to be revived by the RS people with one of their infrequent posts. What does that tell you? It is obvious to me that they will be happy with four or five hundred subscribers and do not care about a handful of unhappy people such as me. If nothing else, at least we have an interesting diversion for the next few weeks. Meanwhile, I have a mountain of books and DVDs to forge through. 
Honi soit quit mal y pense.
|
|||||||||
|
Doomo Inner circle 2381 Posts
|
A thread devoted to something the purchasers cannot talk about... Contractually... A very long thread. With vitriolic arguments about something no one has actually seen... Or can talk about if and when they do see it... I just described this to my wife... She says you guys are all BLANKED in the head... I must admit that there is truth in that statement...
If you ever get to a point where words have no meaning, you're probably talking to a dog.
Remember! More Bang For LESS Bucks! It is the right way! www.rfaproductions.com |
|||||||||
|
FrenchDrop Inner circle I can name that tune in 1647 Posts
|
Nothing livens up a thread like someone popping in to say all the participants are stupid.
"A great magician has said of his profession that its practitioners '… must pound and rack their brains to make the least learning go in, but quarrelling always comes very naturally to them.'” -- Susanna Clarke, Jonathan Strange and Mr Norrell
|
|||||||||
|
Jamie Ferguson Inner circle Alba Gu Bràth 3639 Posts
|
Doomo is just jealous because more people are talking about Real Secrets than his own products.
When the chips are down, the duvet is uncomfortable.
|
|||||||||
|
Doomo Inner circle 2381 Posts
|
Dude... I have NEVER called ANYONE stupid in this thread... You HAVE to admit that this is a WAY strange thread!
If you ever get to a point where words have no meaning, you're probably talking to a dog.
Remember! More Bang For LESS Bucks! It is the right way! www.rfaproductions.com |
|||||||||
|
Atom3339 Inner circle Spokane, WA 3242 Posts
|
The operative word for the entire RS argument is: GAMBLE.
With the lack of information we have been provided and dribs and drabs of additional occasional random information given by the RS Team and posters supposably "in the know" it still remains a huge gamble on the subscribers part. Your choice, of course, whether you want to play the game or not. Do you like the odds? Now some will say MOST magic purchases are a gamble. More like a semi-gamble. Most magic purchases 1) Describe the effect, and 2) Tell you who the magician is who's selling it. THEN you get the REAL secret(s) after your purchase. At least you have some specific knowledge to make an informed decision. It's been beat to death that RS is not selling their magic this way. The House always wins in the long run. So it boils down to your gambling threshold (your risk tolerance) and what you're willing to lose (if this is all a "pie in the sky" enticement). I'm grateful someone mentioned no Coin Magic is included. That instantly takes me out of the game.
TH
Occupy Your Dream |
|||||||||
|
Doomo Inner circle 2381 Posts
|
I have NOT criticized the Real Secrets deal... I don't care one way or the other... Like I said... The part I find interesting... Is 25 pages (at this point) on a subject no one really knows ANYTHING about... And one they DO KNOW, that they are FORBIDDEN to discuss!
Am I the only one who finds this all a bit odd?
If you ever get to a point where words have no meaning, you're probably talking to a dog.
Remember! More Bang For LESS Bucks! It is the right way! www.rfaproductions.com |
|||||||||
|
Jamie Ferguson Inner circle Alba Gu Bràth 3639 Posts
|
Quote:
On 2012-03-18 12:25, Doomo wrote: Fair point, I agree. Most bizarre thread in along time.
When the chips are down, the duvet is uncomfortable.
|
|||||||||
|
Atom3339 Inner circle Spokane, WA 3242 Posts
|
Doomo, What? We DO know someone is offering an annual subscription to some unknown magic products to be delivered on a monthly basis for a specific price. And you have to play by their rules! We do know THESE THINGS, it's now public knowledge.
So there is much fascination and speculation. The reason this thread lives is because NONE of us know if RS will be a success or failure. Either way will tell us whether their marketing approach worked or not. If it succeeds, we'll see more of this approach in the future. If it fails, we'll look back on it and the "I told you so's" will have a hay day!
TH
Occupy Your Dream |
|||||||||
| The Magic Cafe Forum Index » » Latest and Greatest? » » Real Secrets » » TOPIC IS LOCKED (0 Likes) | ||||||||||
| Go to page [Previous] 1~2~3..10..17..24..31..35~36~37~38~39..47..54..61..68..75..77~78~79 [Next] | ||||||||||
Posted: Mar 18, 2012 12:34 am 
X
| [ Top of Page ] |
|
All content & postings Copyright © 2001-2026 Steve Brooks. All Rights Reserved. This page was created in 0.04 seconds requiring 5 database queries. |
|
The views and comments expressed on The Magic Café are not necessarily those of The Magic Café, Steve Brooks, or Steve Brooks Magic. > Privacy Statement < 
|