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sirbrad Inner circle PA 2042 Posts 
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I am excited to be saving $288, and not having to save 24 shipping boxes to closely examine later. I can't wait to hear what those who ordered say when they found out that the wife or another family member threw them out. Better get your caution tape ready and make a spot to encose them all.
The great trouble with magicians is the fact that they believe when they have bought a certain trick or piece of apparatus, and know the method or procedure, that they are full-fledged mystifiers. -- Harry Houdini
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slyhand Inner circle Good ole Virginia 1909 Posts
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Just curious sirbrad, your zeal for stating the same negative opinion ad nauseam on this subject is for which of the following reasons...
1. Your overwhelming concern for your fellow magi. 2. You want to make sure Real Secrets gets no subscribers. 3. Other (please state what that reason is) Thank you.
I am getting so tired of slitting the throats of people who say that I am a violent psychopath.
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toberman Loyal user 202 Posts
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On 2012-03-07 06:56, slyhand wrote: I'm assuming he is in desperate need of attention. If we all ignore his posts maybe he'll go away? |
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GaryLee Loyal user 275 Posts
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If you all ignore his posts? The only reason why he keeps posting is because some of you have nothing to do than either count his posts or interrogate him for posting so many times. If it wasn't for his posts, the interrest in this thread would of died 15 pages ago.
Some of you seem a little obsessed with Sirbrad's posts. Who cares how many times he posts, what's it to anyone else anyways? Why does it concern you so much on how many times someone posts, even if all they are doing is repeating themselves. Sounds like he's not the only one repeating themselves around here. Are you worried he may influence others from not subscribing? What's the real beef for singling out Sirbrad. Maybe it's because your sick and tired of reading his posts? May I suggest a very simple solution? Stop reading his posts, stop coming to this thread. It's not like you have anything else to contribute to the thread. Gee wilacures men, grow up! ha, ha |
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Tom Jorgenson Inner circle LOOSE ANGLES, CALIFORNIA 4451 Posts
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No, I think it's more the annoyance at the unceasing passive/aggressive rudeness and the juvenile sangfroid that disallows any real conversation. Could be that the emotional level of the responses are at about the level of a 12 year old, too. It's probably both.
We dance an invisible dance to music they cannot hear.
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Matthew Wright Special user 583 Posts
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I personally have two problems with this Real Secrets?
1) There is an old saying in magic, "the only way to keep it secret is to publish it". I think that by trying to make it such a secret thing there will be more pirate copies flying around than ever. 2) What are you going to get? 99.999% of marketed magic I will never buy because it just isn't for me. What makes this so amazing that it is going to hit twelve times? Or even once out of twelve times? Yeah there are some good names associated with it but so what. I have books FULL of Max Maven material that I am never gonna do. I can't believe that Max has been saving his very best stuff just for this project. Same goes for every other contributor. I've seen the Michael Weber mind-reading manuscript that was bought for £60 and thought it was pretty poor for the price. I can't imagine what he will be putting out for $12? |
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sirbrad Inner circle PA 2042 Posts
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On 2012-03-06 22:04, gaffed wrote: You sound pretty hypocritcal considering that you requested that the HP thread (which magically disappeared) be locked.
The great trouble with magicians is the fact that they believe when they have bought a certain trick or piece of apparatus, and know the method or procedure, that they are full-fledged mystifiers. -- Harry Houdini
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GaryLee Loyal user 275 Posts
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It'll all come down to a matter of opinion and personal taste. What might be a terrible effect to one person may turn out to be the staple for someone else. I know sometimes I hate a trick that someone else loves. It's not because I'm right and they're wrong, it's a matter of taste and opinion. Some people can see the use of things that others discard as being useless and uneffective.
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sirbrad Inner circle PA 2042 Posts
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On 2012-03-07 06:56, slyhand wrote: I am trying to save the magic world. I am merely stating my opinion and as stated it keeps the thread going and not so boring. A lot of people are thick-headed and hate opposing opinions, and want to "ignore" what can possibly happen. I can state my opinions just as much as anyone else, positive or negative. I don't see any rules about only being able to post a certain amount of times regarding a subject. The ones who only want to think positive about this have nothing to talk about anyway, it is all secret. Their mosts are nothing more than than the same thing as well, saying "oh I can't wait" over and over. 
The great trouble with magicians is the fact that they believe when they have bought a certain trick or piece of apparatus, and know the method or procedure, that they are full-fledged mystifiers. -- Harry Houdini
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sirbrad Inner circle PA 2042 Posts
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On 2012-03-07 09:51, GaryLee wrote: Wow! Someone who gets it finally! I thought I was living in a different world than everyone else. But I guess I am not the one who is delusional. The real problem is "they can't hande the truth!"
The great trouble with magicians is the fact that they believe when they have bought a certain trick or piece of apparatus, and know the method or procedure, that they are full-fledged mystifiers. -- Harry Houdini
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sirbrad Inner circle PA 2042 Posts
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On 2012-03-07 10:11, Tom Jorgenson wrote: Sometimes I have to come down to those levels so that those with such mentalities do not feel left out. I thought I was doing you a favor.
The great trouble with magicians is the fact that they believe when they have bought a certain trick or piece of apparatus, and know the method or procedure, that they are full-fledged mystifiers. -- Harry Houdini
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sirbrad Inner circle PA 2042 Posts
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On 2012-03-07 11:04, matthew wright wrote: That is why I think this whole idea will flop. Regardless whether or not the material is stellar, the whole concept and poor business practices will ultimately put a damper on the whole thing.
The great trouble with magicians is the fact that they believe when they have bought a certain trick or piece of apparatus, and know the method or procedure, that they are full-fledged mystifiers. -- Harry Houdini
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Zombie Magic Inner circle I went out for a beer and now have 8733 Posts
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On 2012-03-07 11:32, GaryLee wrote: That is so true. Aaron Fisher's Panic is one of the best products ever to be released. But a friend of mine doesn't like ti because the 4 kings aren't signed ( like in Traveler's ). lol. To each their own. |
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Michael Jay Regular user Toledo, Ohio 180 Posts
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At least 260 "platinum" memberships have been purchased. Do the math. No, I'll do the math: $36,400.00 in the coffers (bare minimum).
A failure? Hardly. Mike. |
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Ray Chelt Special user Changing the world with my 988 Posts
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On 2012-03-07 12:01, Michael Jay wrote: I'm not sure I'd be too happy with 260 sign ups-- that's 0.5% of the registered Café Members. Twelve contributors who would --if they got 100% of takings , get $3000 dollars each but then you have to take off Real Secrets take, cost of production for gimmicks , post and packaging. So either contributors are making very little out of this or the gimmicks themselves are going to be very very basic. |
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sirbrad Inner circle PA 2042 Posts
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On 2012-03-07 12:01, Michael Jay wrote: Is that after taxes and fees? I never said it would be a failure for the seller. And yeah, based on just the Café member count alone that is "hardly" a success with April around the corner. Their little time limit and no back issues scheme is actually going to cost them a lot of money. You do the math. Also due to the fact that we are not allowed to know anyone's name behind it all makes me very suspicious of many of the supporters in this thread.
The great trouble with magicians is the fact that they believe when they have bought a certain trick or piece of apparatus, and know the method or procedure, that they are full-fledged mystifiers. -- Harry Houdini
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Atom3339 Inner circle Spokane, WA 3242 Posts
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I'd like this Topic locked.
But not until I start a new Topic in Latest And Greatest about my NEW EXCITING OPPORTUNITY for ALL magicians, hobbyists, amateurs and pros! COUNTERFEIT REVELATIONS! Featuring effects and routines from some of our most talented and creative minds in magic today! LIKE Michael Ammar! Jay Sankey! David Stone! And Max Maven! Now it's not really those guys, but my buddy Jim has a Southern accent like Ammar and can do a pretty convincing French Drop. A guy in the office, Smitty, also has a lot of kinetic energy like Sankey. I gave him a large black Marks-A-Lot to create the mind-blowing Shadow Chips Routine you'll use immediately at your next venue, whether sitting, standing or reclined! My cousin, Ammanda, speaks French like David Stone---I mean I heard she has taken a few French lessons---and we already have a year's supply of the realistic looking gimmicks made by the best Asian artisans for her amazing America Fries routine. You've never seen anything like it! AND you'll be one of the first and only to have this astonishing effect starting in April! It's a KILLER at McDonald's! My friend Chris is truly a Mental Magic genious. Not too far into your Annual Commitment, you'll receive the colorful mysterious Wheel Of Integers, a portable mentalist's tool you can use for countless performances! Unlimited possibilities only limited by your imagination! Criss, oops, I mean Chris, with his black goatee and ponytail, has an uncanny resemble to a certain Mr. Goldstein. And MUCH MORE! All you have to do is send $120 to this unknown poster and his unknown friends, The Counterfet Revelations Team! Yay!, to our unsecure Website and we'll starting mailing this junk,er, I mean these unique items and their illusive secrets to your front door! Notice our subscription fee is less than the competitor! IF there were a competitor, that is. Of course, you'll be locked into a five year commitment, but we buried that in the fine print using a 3 font. Counterfet Revelations! The Latest and Greatest! We PROMISE not to rip you off! (Atom3339 saunters off to his library to study Hilliard, Tarbell and Bobo....)
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Jim Sparx Inner circle Far Out, Texas 1144 Posts
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You didn't mention me. What am I, chopped liver?
Et tu, Spartacus?
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sirbrad Inner circle PA 2042 Posts
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On 2012-03-07 12:01, Michael Jay wrote: Let me do the math. 260 purchased with time running out rapidly. 50,281 Café members. 260 out of 50,281. FAIL. With their time limit scheme they were banking on thousands of members to join by this time.
The great trouble with magicians is the fact that they believe when they have bought a certain trick or piece of apparatus, and know the method or procedure, that they are full-fledged mystifiers. -- Harry Houdini
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Jim Sparx Inner circle Far Out, Texas 1144 Posts
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This is not the only place they are advertising and we do not know where the OP got that information and that is the "platinum" membership. I don't see how that is a fail.
I have heard that the average sale of an effect or book is about 500 tops during the life of the product, anything over that is gravy.
Et tu, Spartacus?
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