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GaryLee Loyal user 275 Posts 
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It's all done intentionally to keep people talking about Real Secrets. Nothing sells better than controversy.
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FrenchDrop Inner circle I can name that tune in 1647 Posts
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I didn't think you were interested in helping them.
"A great magician has said of his profession that its practitioners '… must pound and rack their brains to make the least learning go in, but quarrelling always comes very naturally to them.'” -- Susanna Clarke, Jonathan Strange and Mr Norrell
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GaryLee Loyal user 275 Posts
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Why not, I almost made $45 dollars out of it. The least I can do is help to keep the controversy going.
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billmarq Special user State near Arizona 570 Posts
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There remains, however, the incongruity of the statement "We are offering Platinum memberships for a one time annual fee..." and the requirement for a fixed "recurring annual payment" to remain in effect in order for that membership to continue or even be accepted in the first place. I do not wish to delve into the matter of how membership in "good standing" is defined by anonymous people who do not know what "one time fee" means, as that would call for speculation and my opinion might appear unkind.
Before anyone gets angry with me, let me repeat that I have no objections to the concept of a trick of the month club and I have no problem with anyone giving this one a go. We have different ways of looking at things. I signed up and was tossed out against my objection, as were Tom Stone and others, because we went into our personal accounts and cancelled a future second time fee. Not nice, no matter how you twist it. It's okay. I can live with it. I have already spent the refunded money on other goodies. (No, not the Blammo Wonder Deck.) I find people's different takes on the matter interesting. Reading about the latest and greatest ACAAN is the thing that is beginning to wear me down.
Keep it fun, friends.
Honi soit quit mal y pense.
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GaryLee Loyal user 275 Posts
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I liked the video you made. It looked like you had a lot of fun doing it.
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billmarq Special user State near Arizona 570 Posts
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Thanks, Gary. I am thinking now that the next item for sale should have been a package sealed in a plain brown wrapper, but with unknown contents. It might not have as much impact as the Bullet Catch, but I probably could sell a lot of them for about $12.00.
Honi soit quit mal y pense.
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Magicsquared Inner circle 1262 Posts
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On 2012-03-20 00:03, GaryLee wrote: Gary, you know when an unranked college basketball team, playing in their own gym, beats the #1 team in the country. And then their fans start cheering "OVER-RATED!" It's a dumb thing to cheer, right? Because it lessens the victory. Similarly, when you make three points and I show that you're wrong on all three: 1. The two business we were talking about have identical business models. It's called the subscription business model. Any first-year business student at a community college could point this out. (the fact that you don't know the name of whoever is running Real Secrets doesn't change their "business model." What you seem to have an issue with is some of their business practices.) 2. They have identical guarantees (if you're dissatisfied, you can get a pro-rated refund.) 3. Real Secrets IS verified on paypal. you shouldn't imply I'm dumb, because it magnifies the defeat of me pulling the rug out from under your argument. You just got outwitted by a dumb guy, to hear you tell it. And if you ARE going to imply I'm dumb, at least try to do it in an way that doesn't point out your ineptitude with the English language and sad lack of originality. "I have better things than get into a battle of wits with someone who is unarmed," is a fine butchering of a classic quote, but it's hardly a telling example of your creativity. Well, for your sake I hope it's not. But you've convinced me, Gary. This thing is DEFINITELY suspicious. But I don't want to argue with you anymore either. I'm going to try and fight it from the inside. shhhhhhhh. don't tell! And billmarq, you're right, the mandatory recurring payment is dumb. My feeling is, if this ends up sucking I will have cancelled before the year is up anyway, and if it's good, I'll be glad I don't have to bother with signing up again. So for ME it's fine. But I agree it shouldn't be mandatory and making it so is a poor business practice. |
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GaryLee Loyal user 275 Posts
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If I have to go all the way back to first explaining to you what a business model is, then...well, I will give you the definition. Class is now is session.
A business model is not what a business sells. Definition of 'Business Model' The plan implemented by a company to generate revenue and make a profit from operations. The model includes the components and functions of the business, as well as the revenues it generates and the expenses it incurs. This describes the method or means by which a company tries to capture value from its business. A business model may be based on many different aspects of a company, such as how it makes, distributes, prices or advertises its products. Example For instance, the 'razors and blades' model used by companies such as Gilette, in which a basic product (the razor) is sold cheaply, but an essential add-on or consumable (the blade) is sold at a high price once the customer has been lured in. [1] The business model concentrates on value creation. It describes a company's or organisation's core strategy to generate economic value, normally in the form of revenue Another example is a mobile phone company may sell handsets (the bait) at a reduced price while signing up customers to buy calls over the period of a contract (the hook). [2] read more here. http://lexicon.ft.com/Term?term=business-model Okay, I'm reading. Pull the rug from under me.(lol) Any first-year business student at a community college could point this out. |
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GaryLee Loyal user 275 Posts
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Since I own my own business, and oh my, what's that on my wall? My BBA Hmmm. Me thinks maybe community college did you wrong. Please don't insult me with your ignorance. As far as my spelling goes, I'm still getting used to typing on a keyboard. It also doesn't help when you are missing two fingers on one hand and one finger on the other, and having a keyboard that sticks.
There, I took extra time to not only educate you on the definition on what a business model is, but I was also kind enough to provide the link for further information if you shall choose to continue to prove your ignorance. |
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FrenchDrop Inner circle I can name that tune in 1647 Posts
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Wow. Now I actually miss sirbrad.
"A great magician has said of his profession that its practitioners '… must pound and rack their brains to make the least learning go in, but quarrelling always comes very naturally to them.'” -- Susanna Clarke, Jonathan Strange and Mr Norrell
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GaryLee Loyal user 275 Posts
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And to think, all he had to do was google the definition of business model to find out how wrong he is.
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FrenchDrop Inner circle I can name that tune in 1647 Posts
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I like how you keep pretending I'm not talking about you.
"A great magician has said of his profession that its practitioners '… must pound and rack their brains to make the least learning go in, but quarrelling always comes very naturally to them.'” -- Susanna Clarke, Jonathan Strange and Mr Norrell
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GaryLee Loyal user 275 Posts
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You'll have to excuse me, I haven't been paying attention to your posts. Sorry, what about me?
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GaryLee Loyal user 275 Posts
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Just looking back I see that I did answer one of your questions I believe was addressed to me. Was there something else I missed?
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FrenchDrop Inner circle I can name that tune in 1647 Posts
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Heh. You crack me up, Gary.
"A great magician has said of his profession that its practitioners '… must pound and rack their brains to make the least learning go in, but quarrelling always comes very naturally to them.'” -- Susanna Clarke, Jonathan Strange and Mr Norrell
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Xiqual Inner circle Upper left quadrant 4937 Posts
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Gary,
Did you really write that? It's..... unbelievably..pompous James Quote: On 2012-03-20 02:28, GaryLee wrote:
Still with the Chinese circus
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Michael Jay Regular user Toledo, Ohio 180 Posts
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Okay, c'mon guys - let's not start getting stupid, eh?
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GaryLee Loyal user 275 Posts
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Yes it was, but someone decided to challenge my intellect, and tried to insult it as well. He pulled the first shot. I was nice about it at first, until he insisted he was right and I was wrong. It was also very pompous of the other guy. Plus, I had a lot of fun with it. Did you see how convinced he was about thinking what a business model is. Like I said, all he had to do was google the definition, instead he choose to argue with me. Pretty pompous of him wouldn't you say?
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GaryLee Loyal user 275 Posts
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This is what provoked me to be pompous. He was far more pompous than me. And, he was wrong too.
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On 2012-03-20 00:39, Magicsquared wrote: This quote especially encouraged me to further prove how wrong he was. I even provided a link for further info should he need it before coming back on here and challenging my intellegence again. "And if you ARE going to imply I'm dumb, at least try to do it in an way that doesn't point out your ineptitude with the English language and sad lack of originality." I took him up on it in a pompous way. |
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Michael Jay Regular user Toledo, Ohio 180 Posts
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Oh, no, Brother, don't pull me into the middle.
Gary, I have found your posts to be insightful and I tend to agree with your point of view...But we are all going way over the edge here. Mike. |
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