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Mr. Mystoffelees Inner circle I haven't changed anyone's opinion in 3623 Posts 
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Business model? Business modal??? Shirley you jest...
Also known, when doing rope magic, as "Cordini"
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tomsk192 Inner circle 3894 Posts
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On 2012-03-20 21:09, Mr. Mystoffelees wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0A5t5_O8hdA Oh yes. |
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Xiqual Inner circle Upper left quadrant 4937 Posts
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Hi Bill,
No one thinks you are a whiner. I personally won't cancel if it's good. If it isn't then I will cancel and not care about the repercussions. With Paypal, I have always been able to cancel the recurring payment if I was not happy. If this is not for you, I understand. I do think the contributors know the deal. James Quote: On 2012-03-20 20:04, billmarq wrote:
Still with the Chinese circus
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Steve Brooks Founder / Manager Northern California - United States 3869 Posts
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Hey guys, I would have chimed in much sooner but as many of you know I've been dealing with a lot of family drama here at home.
That said, here is my position on the REAL SECRETS project: Back in the mid 1970's there were a couple different companies that marketed a type of Trick of the Month club. Both organizations worked very much like the old record clubs of the time (i.e, You picked out a couple of tricks from their catalog and then each month you received a new trick in the mail). As a youngster I thought the magic clubs were very cool, especially since there were not any magic shops near me. Also, the mystery of receiving a new unknown miracle each month in the mail was something I looked forward to. Sometimes I liked the tricks I received, other times I didn't. However, as a whole I learned much about magic and am better for the experience. 
In that light you can see why I was interested in the REAL SECRETS project. Add to that, with guys like Michael Weber being involved, how can you go wrong? Having said all of that, you should know I am NOT involved with REAL SECRETS and infact do NOT know who all the people that are involved. In fact, I have absolutely no financial interest one way or the other, except of course my first years fee.
So, if the REAL SECRETS project turns out to be a joke, I have been suckered into it just like the rest of you! 
I'm looking forward to seeing what REAL SECRETS brings to our community and am anxious to see their first offerings. Hopefully this is everything that my imagination thinks it should be. 
"Always be you because nobody else can" - Steve Brooks
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Zombie Magic Inner circle I went out for a beer and now have 8733 Posts
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If I wasn't already in for the ride, Steve Brooks' post would have me joining immediately!
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Eddie Garland Inner circle Hells Kitchen, New York City 4207 Posts
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I am looking forward to real secrets, I have had enough with all those other lame pretend secrets.
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dendrake New user 83 Posts
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Not sure if this has been said before. (Soooo many pages) will there be a private “Real Secrets section” here at the café so members can police Real Secrets independently?
Or will that be against their rules? |
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Xiqual Inner circle Upper left quadrant 4937 Posts
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I personally will not be doing any "policing". I plan on just trying to enjoy the fun of magic.
YAAAYYYYY!!!!! James Quote: On 2012-03-23 04:01, dendrake wrote:
Still with the Chinese circus
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Mr. Mystoffelees Inner circle I haven't changed anyone's opinion in 3623 Posts
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On 2012-03-22 22:36, Zombie Magic wrote: Yes, well said! I have been vacillating and had decided to hold off. However, Steve's post has me on board- if this sinks, what a great group to sink with! Good to see you on Steve, and thank you for some important input. All good thoughts as you work to heal. Regards, Jim
Also known, when doing rope magic, as "Cordini"
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Jim Sparx Inner circle Far Out, Texas 1144 Posts
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More important than the Real Secrets, we are glad to see you back, Mr. Brooks, and I know all the members are wishing the best for you and your family, with our sincere condolences.
Et tu, Spartacus?
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writeall Special user Midland, Michigan 930 Posts
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James,
Your enthusiasm, and some contact with Real Secrets has gotten me to order. For all my waffling, I ended up on the bus after all. It remeinds me of the little thrill I get when my favorite magazine arrives in the mail. Some issues are better than others, but I still get a nice smile when I find it in the mailbox, and some much needed distraction in an otherwise busy life. So... will we even be able to talk to other Real Secrets members? How could I verify who was who? There's a huge added value if I can pick the brains of others in the community -- a good idea can turn an also-ran effect into pure gold. (I'm thinking of Garrett Thomas' 14-cents trick with the locking dime and penny gimmick.) I guess Secrecy has its downside. |
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Tom Jorgenson Inner circle LOOSE ANGLES, CALIFORNIA 4451 Posts
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I'd assume members will have their own forum somewhere, safely locked from prying eyes. Good ideas dumped into creative minds can only be good times and fun for all.
We dance an invisible dance to music they cannot hear.
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ralphs007 Inner circle 1087 Posts
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Hi
I've considered this but I'm already over extended on the new magic effects, I'm trying to learn ! Ralph
"You can easily judge the character of a man by how he treats those who can do nothing for him".
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Magicsquared Inner circle 1262 Posts
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On 2012-03-23 12:11, Tom Jorgenson wrote: According to the email they sent to people who signed up, there will be a dedicated email set up for people to contribute ideas and new handlings and those will be distributed if they seem useful. While I wouldn't mind a message board, I actually kind of prefer having the ideas brought together and curated in some format. I have enough message boards to occupy my time. Also, if you're someone who is on the fence, I would suggest signing up at least for the first three month subscription. I would assume the first few items that come out are going to be some of the strongest ones they have in the pipeline in order to create a good buzz about the project. (At least that seems like a logical assumption.) |
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BatsMagic Inner circle New York 1052 Posts
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I haven't finished reading all of the posts here yet, but I certainly am amused at all of the sniping. For now I'll just say that I'm in. I was an early subscriber, and I'm looking forward to "Real Secrets". In approximately 2 weeks the ones who took a chance will know the truth. All I can say is that, for every ten $30 or $35 DVD's that I buy, I might put one trick into my performance repertoire. And that's with knowing the type of effect that I am buying. So if I get 4 good ones in a year from this, I'll consider it a bargain. I certainly expect that to happen. We'll see.
Posted: Mar 23, 2012 3:48pm Oh, and I took the $144 plunge- I want the exclusive Michael Weber effect. My wife wanted to kill me and didn't talk to me for a few days- that was actually a good thing! |
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FrenchDrop Inner circle I can name that tune in 1647 Posts
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On 2012-03-23 09:58, spartacus wrote: Well said! Quote:
On 2012-03-23 15:28, BatsMagic wrote: I have to ask: If you only use one out of 10 things you buy when you know what you're getting, why would you expect to use one out of 3 things you buy sight unseen, with no clue what you're getting?
"A great magician has said of his profession that its practitioners '… must pound and rack their brains to make the least learning go in, but quarrelling always comes very naturally to them.'” -- Susanna Clarke, Jonathan Strange and Mr Norrell
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FrenchDrop Inner circle I can name that tune in 1647 Posts
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On 2012-03-23 15:28, BatsMagic wrote: I have to ask: If you only use one out of 10 things you buy when you know what you're getting, why would you expect to use one out of 3 things you buy sight unseen, with no clue what you're getting?
"A great magician has said of his profession that its practitioners '… must pound and rack their brains to make the least learning go in, but quarrelling always comes very naturally to them.'” -- Susanna Clarke, Jonathan Strange and Mr Norrell
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Ray Chelt Special user Changing the world with my 988 Posts
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On 2012-03-23 09:31, Mr. Mystoffelees wrote: Genius, Steve takes pains to distance himself from this project and avow no knowledge of all the parties involved and some folk take that as a positive indicator to jump on board. You really couldn't make it up. |
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Magicsquared Inner circle 1262 Posts
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On 2012-03-23 17:40, Ray Chelt wrote: I don't think he was trying to "distance himself from this project" as much as he was trying to make it clear that he is not one of the people behind the project (as some people have misconstrued his endorsement as implying). Obviously the rest of his post was pointing out that there's a precedent for this type of thing and that he's into it and excited about it. Which you're not. And yet you keep returning to this thread. You really couldn't make it up. |
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BatsMagic Inner circle New York 1052 Posts
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On 2012-03-23 16:38, FrenchDrop wrote: A legitimate question, and here's my answer- I have FAITH in the people involved in the product. I like Max Maven and I like Michael Weber. I believe that, right there, I will get two good effects. I believe that "Real Secrets" will separate the wheat from the chaff for me. Maybe I'm a sucker for all of the hype that is presented in ads that are designed to sell a product- and make no mistake about it, I fell for the "Real Secrets" advertising, as minimal as it has been. If Real Secrets does not deliver, they will not last. I think that they want to last. When Jay Sankey disappointed me one too many times I never returned to his website. And I NEVER will again- I don't care what he comes up with. When I bought an item that claimed "No IT", and I opened up the package and there was ELASTIC IT, It got me pretty upset. The producer claimed that it wasn't IT in the traditional sense of IT, but darn it, it was IT! I don't want to deal with them anymore- I wanted an effect that did not use IT, but that is what I got. BS! BS! If, after a year, I am disappointed with "Real Secrets", I will drop them like a hot potato. I don't think they want to be dropped! Now that I answered your question, FrenchDrop, please answer one for me- Do you use all of the effects that you pay for? This is not meant to start a fight- I refuse to do that. I just want to know what your success ratio is. I know that mine is not very high. I'm not sure if it is 1 out of 10, but it's got to be close! |
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