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Quite obnoxious, in my opinion.
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Kyle Livingston,are you joking kid? The intro was quite offensive.
You lost your audio feed at the 3:16 mark.
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100% dislikes lol

This sadly justifies everything MP Mindpro etc have said on this board. No respect whatsoever. I am waiting for the video which includes damage to the cervical spine. It looks imminent

Some of us are fighting for the respect of the stage only community. You are one of the reasons this is an uphill struggle.

I am genuinely disappointed

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Curious, am I "etc"?

Now I havn't watched it because his stated reason is to be a troll, but my point is that I do not lump everyone in together.

For example Richard Nongard has put out things with Cerbone about speed trance and things sort of like this and I respect them. For me at least it is individual.

Again don't forget this guys stated intention is to cause controversey and be a troll. Why let him>?
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It's a shame the other thread got deleted, as dmkraig had a really decent post and was getting quite interesting. We finally get a decent conversation going and it gets deleted.
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The kid is just learning obviously. He is looking for some form of validation from what he THINKS are his peers. I get that, it is just that he is doing it in a fairly obnoxious way.
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This kid reminds me of the other self proclaimed guru...the purple shirt guy.
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Yea this course should be put out pretty soon.

I mean if you told him that you don't have to keep shouting things at people, and if you just tell them what you want them to do you can completely forego the induction in the first place and it amounts to sketch comedy and not hypnosis he will be offended.

After all the word is "suggestion" now isn't it?

I was thankful for the loss of audio.

Now if he is looking to learn, and put it up for that purpose then cool. But somehow I do not get that feeling.

The dirty little secret is that anyone can induce trance on stage. Really we all know this is not the hard part. It is making it a show, and then making that show an experience where the know how comes in. When we first start we get confused.
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But why is he "looking for some form of validation from what he THINKS are his peers"?

Yes it's nice to have and of course helpful etc but it doesn't get bookings and/or pay the bills.

Anyone can go out and get or not get bookings without knowing or being 'validated by' anyone else.

And of course, turning up and screaming for attention is not the way to get the validation he seeks. To say that he is here to cause controversy actually shows contempt for his peers, so why would he want validation from people he has contempt for?

He does remind me very much of the purple shirted one in his actions and complete self-love. Seems that he doesn't need or is looking for any validation from anyone. Just controversial self-promotion and "Look at me!"
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To me his posts and videos are from a point of thinking he's hot stuff and bragging about what he and his little friends thinks is cool, when in reality, he's not and it's not. Then he gets called out on it and starts backpeddling with a story of he just posted to start some commotion, which also just proves the point of inexperience and lack of respect that everyone is easily pointing out.

That was one of my points in the post that got deleted after kraig's, is if he was sincerely interested in being critiqued or seeking feedback from others in the know or with more experience, his attitude and approach were terrible and showed lack of many things, most of respect for all of us as well as this forum. And please don't offer me the "he is young" justification, as we all were once and even today I work with many newbies and beginners that are much more responsible and mature in their approach and willingness to learn from those with more credibility and experience.

Yes, I agree, this is exactly like our one-shirt, purple wonder. Only his cronies and those under him that he bullies or with less experience than him think it's cool or impressive.
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The video became unavailable yesterday and now the thread is completely gone today. You can always view his work on this thread: http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewt......orum=217
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Seems to me there is a trend of over self-confidence and "self-love" as mentioned above being confused with fact and reality. This is the unfortunate result of new-fangled trainings that push the message of "confidence is all you need", "just go out there and do it today" and "don't let others tell you your wrong", etc. While these do have a place in trainings, we are now seeing the results of this false sense of belief, the actions it leads to and how it's no replacement for skill and knowledge.

The video should've been removed, but the posts, comments and feedback should've remained as there was a good conversation with many valid points being made.
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On 2012-03-02 11:07, Shrubsole wrote:
But why is he "looking for some form of validation from what he THINKS are his peers"?

Yes it's nice to have and of course helpful etc but it doesn't get bookings and/or pay the bills.

Anyone can go out and get or not get bookings without knowing or being 'validated by' anyone else.

And of course, turning up and screaming for attention is not the way to get the validation he seeks. To say that he is here to cause controversy actually shows contempt for his peers, so why would he want validation from people he has contempt for?

He does remind me very much of the purple shirted one in his actions and complete self-love. Seems that he doesn't need or is looking for any validation from anyone. Just controversial self-promotion and "Look at me!"

He is a self proclaimed troll. I have no idea what inspires his actions.
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On 2012-03-02 11:07, Shrubsole wrote:
But why is he "looking for some form of validation from what he THINKS are his peers"?

Yes it's nice to have and of course helpful etc but it doesn't get bookings and/or pay the bills.

Anyone can go out and get or not get bookings without knowing or being 'validated by' anyone else.

And of course, turning up and screaming for attention is not the way to get the validation he seeks. To say that he is here to cause controversy actually shows contempt for his peers, so why would he want validation from people he has contempt for?

He does remind me very much of the purple shirted one in his actions and complete self-love. Seems that he doesn't need or is looking for any validation from anyone. Just controversial self-promotion and "Look at me!"

He is a self proclaimed troll. I have no idea what inspires his actions.


I think it's along the lines of: "To Know me is to love me" or "It's only right to share myself with the world." Smile

Living with him must be a delight! (English sarcasm)
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Sadly cocky might be an understatement
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5 years of hypnosis. You said elsewhere you are 19, implies you started performing with hypnosis when you were 14. How old were you in your first stage show (the one on the video)? Just curious.

Mindpro, any chance of some video of you doing stage hypno for comparison? I've got a friend coming to Vegas this month - do you perform in Vegas and if so where can my friend come to see you perform?

HK
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On 2012-03-03 00:22, nevarillusions wrote:
Sadly cocky might be an understatement


Yea and it is rare it is a good quality that will help you further your career or knowledge base. In general humble and willing to learn works much better.
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On 2012-03-03 00:22, nevarillusions wrote:
Sadly cocky might be an understatement


Never mind. I'm sure someone will take you seriously one day.

And given your age there is every induction that it's not a major character flaw but something you will eventually grow out of.

Why not come back when you do?
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On 2012-03-03 06:28, hypnokid wrote:
Mindpro, any chance of some video of you doing stage hypno for comparison? I've got a friend coming to Vegas this month - do you perform in Vegas and if so where can my friend come to see you perform?

HK


No, as I've stated here before I don't post video after having been ripped off and in litigation 6 times in 8 years. Yes, I'll be in Vegas until March 8th. My Spring tour begins March 9th and runs through June 14 (as of right now, some dates often seem to get added at the end if I don't go right into resort or fair/fest season). PM me for show times and locations if he'll be here before the 8th.
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