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Chris Piercy
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If nothing else just try and slow down a bit.
Also listen to people who have been in the game a lot longer than you, they are trying to help you even if they aren't agreeing with you.

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Guys, were none of you cocky when you began? You don't go into showbiz unless you think you are the best. I have more of a problem with the guys who are not cocky. Why not look beyond the grammar and see if you can be more constructive.
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Actually, I was never cocky when I began and am still humble after 25 years of magic. I know my limits, I know there are people with skills that I will never have, and I know I am not perfect and never will be. In fact, I would argue that many people are shy and insecure when they begin. I've tried to be as constructive as possible regarding this young man and his video. You really don't go into show business unless you think you are the best? I have to disagree, at least for me and many of my friends and colleagues "in the business" as either amateurs or pros that I have met over the decades. Many people that get into magic are introverts, and magic is a perfect way to help overcome that. I still cringe at the cocky magician, as I am sure many laymen do as well. Nobody likes assumed inferiority rubbed in their face. For some, the cockiness fits their persona, others not. I happen to fall into the category of the latter. I think being humble (at least for me) as a far better path to take, and many a great teacher have echoed the same. I did look beyond the grammar and offered my honest opinion (granted, not here but in his other post of the same video), and I still maintain that a little modesty and decent communication skills will take a performer much farther in the long run than scamming kisses, especially if he is looking for constructive criticism. I love the art enough to speak honestly about my feelings on this matter even when I know others will surely disagree.

TonyB2009, I realize your comment wasn't directed solely at me, so I hope you won't take may comments personally, I am just trying to add to the conversation with an alternative view.
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^ I think Mr. jack is right on. I have found that a cocky person is usually hiding many insecurities or is a narcisiss (sp?). I have known many very talented people who are very humble that share their gifts without worrying about their ego. They could CRUSH the cocky up-and-comers but see no need; they KNOW their capability and they choose not to compete to prove anything---they're already light years ahead. Some are recognised, some not. But as a whole they seem to live longer and have content lives.
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Well being English, we do things a bit differently and go with beauty being in the eye of the beholder.

Meaning that we do our best at something and then it is up to the audience to say that we are great, fantastic, etc. Just acting like we are wonderful and we know it, seldom gets the desired response we want, here.

In fact I would go so far as to say that I have never understood the point of telling people you are wonderful as that is for them to decide. Telling them wonderful you are or just acting like you know, is a great way to get taken down a peg to two.
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Of course I was cocky... And it was extremely painful. I doubt "nevar*spellchex" is still here, but if he is, he should be grateful for the fact that here are a group of people who are not cocky, and therefore, not judgmental.
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I enjoyed it Smile
Kendrix
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I enjoyed it as well. I agree with the above advice to "slow down". Some of the very nice moments are passed over too quickly.
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On 2012-03-06 08:14, TonyB2009 wrote:
Guys, were none of you cocky when you began? You don't go into showbiz unless you think you are the best. I have more of a problem with the guys who are not cocky. Why not look beyond the grammar and see if you can be more constructive.
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On 2012-02-29 12:52, Atom3339 wrote:
Actually, you are getting EXCELLENT advice IF you heed it and read between the lines:

-There's a big difference between being confident and cocky; between being arrogant and proud.

-Clear communication is important, whether in the way you come across or taking a few moments of inconvenience to use Spellchecker.

-You ARE talented and should be proud of your accomplishments---developing your magic, producing your video, et al. But it may be wise to also realize MANY of us on this forum have also done these things, including working with multi-million dollar corporations. Sorry, but that really doesn't impress some of us! We CAN share what has worked for us and probably save you years of frustration we went through in the School Of Hardknocks IF you are open to it. If you just want to post videos of how clever you are using magic to get Bikini Babe kisses from strangers, that's your call!
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