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On 2012-03-10 12:53, Michael Baker wrote:
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On 2012-03-10 12:29, Ekuth wrote:
Why not replace the top with a continous piece of triple velvet? FYI: if you do, DO NOT USE ADHESIVE SPRAY TO GLUE IT DOWN.

Only edge glue velvet and stretch carefully. If you glue the whole thing it WILL wrinkle.


You'd have to know this particular table top to understand why that would not work. Smile



Ahhh! I have not seen the table, no, so forgive my ignorance. *bows*
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Well this is fascinating .. neither of these companies will sell the adhesive to Canada because it's a hazardous chemical.
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I would do some trials before working on your table top but flocking will stick to wet paint. I flocked some record trays for a 1940's jukebox about 25 years ago and they still look great. It was probably an oil based paint but I don't really recall.
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That's odd, because the adhesive was the first thing that showed up when I searched the Woodcraft Canada site.

You can also use a glue that dries clear (like Elmer's school glue), as long as the substrate is the same color as the flock fibers. The reason for the adhesive is for color match. Since the application would be black, just make sure the surface is black before you proceed. You may or may not have sanded to the point where bare wood shows through. If so, just spray any questionable areas with flat black before going through the flocking process.
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I found a couple of sites that sell flocking material that recommend using acrylic paint for adhesive.
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On 2012-03-24 18:37, AGMagic wrote:
I found a couple of sites that sell flocking material that recommend using acrylic paint for adhesive.


I was going on knowledge from my model railroading days, but acrylic paint should be excellent, as color matches can be customized. I use acrylic paint to color liquid latex on anything from making prosthetics to backing carpet samples for close-up pads. It works great. I wouldn't use the latex for the table though, as a hard finish is probably more desirable.
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Well I just got an email from Donjer products... they responded on a weekend wow.. So it turns out that Lee Valley Tools sells the kits.. ever more sweeter is there is a Lee Valley less then a mile from my house. I googled for an hour on this I couldn't find a thing.. Very impressed with this Donjer products !! Now lets get started on this little project.. Before and after pictures will follow.. LOL
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Ok just one final question as I now have the flock in hand..

With respect to the gimmick doors of the table. As my objective is to try to hide these doors with flock the best I can.. Should I just tape the inside of the door holes.. or just adhesive and flock the whole table let it dry then cut into the door holes ?? I hope you understand what I mean..
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Which is better Nylon Fibers or Suede ??
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On 2012-03-26 12:39, insidetheeye wrote:
Ok just one final question as I now have the flock in hand..

With respect to the gimmick doors of the table. As my objective is to try to hide these doors with flock the best I can.. Should I just tape the inside of the door holes.. or just adhesive and flock the whole table let it dry then cut into the door holes ?? I hope you understand what I mean..


If the glue is applied correctly, you should not have any flock on places there is no glue. Glue should not be permitted to 'run' down the sides of the doors. You should tape off all places you do not want flock. The new frog tape is one way to go with sharp edges.

Spend more time on the preparation and you will not have a lot of clean up work.
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