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Ray Chelt Inner circle Changing the world with my 1278 Posts 
Hmm, not hugely excited until I listened to the speil that goes with the trick and it opens up a world of possibilities.
Strikes me that, if you attributed numerical values to cards you could potentially have a phase where the spec picks a card (forced) and then you reveal their card through the book. This whole thing about pi holding every bit of information about everything ever, opens up a world of fun. 

Mark_Chandaue Inner circle Essex UK 3565 Posts 
I stumbled upon the original live demo last night whilst looking for something else and ordered straight away. This fits perfectly into a slot in my show that I was looking to fill. Annoyingly the other day I purchased the recollector which is a great effect but not as perfect a fit and almost double the price of this. Had I known about this a few days earlier the money I spent on the recollector probably would have gone towards the Babel book test.
Mark
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jaizon Inner circle By time you read this I will have 1540 Posts 
Ordered.


Mr. Mindbender Inner circle 1337 Posts 
Just to clarify...
Is the birthday routine available with all stacks or is it just the stackless version? I currently have the original effect for Aronson, but really think the birthday phase is the perfect end to the effect. 

Vincent Hedan New user France 46 Posts 
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On Mar 13, 2016, Mr. Mindbender wrote: The birthday finale is only doable with the new version that has just been released. Regardless of the new version you get (new "with stack" or new "stackless"), the birthday finale itself doesn't require you to know a stack. 

Marc O Special user The Netherlands 744 Posts 
Hi Vincent,
So with the new book you can do all the routines stackless or do you still need to know a stack and can you only do the birthday revelation stackless? Beeing impressd by your Penguin Lecture and "Your thoughts are my playground" , I would like to recommend these to other people who are reading this thread! 

Vincent Hedan New user France 46 Posts 
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On Mar 14, 2016, Marc O wrote: I'll try to explain again (the following is also outlined in the video on my website) This new release of Pi contains 3 effects: Effect 1  The spectator gives you any page number and you tell him the first few digits of this page. Effect 2  The spectator gives a string of 5 digits (without telling you where on the line or the page) and you keep reciting the digits from this spot. Effect 3  The spectator gives you his birthday and you tell where he can find the corresponding sequence in the book. Pi is available in 2 main versions: stack or stackless. If you want the stack version, you go on my website, choose the stack you know already (Mnemonica, Aronson, ...) and you receive a book coded for this particular stack. You can then perform effects 1, 2 and 3. Effect 3 doesn't require the knowledge of a stack. If you want the stackless version, you go on my website, choose the stackless version and you receive a book coded with special mnemonics (no math, no cards). You can then perform effects 1, 2 and 3. Effect 3 doesn't require the mnemonics. Hope this helps Quote:
On Mar 14, 2016, Marc O wrote: Thanks, I'm glad you enjoyed those! "Your mind..." is still available on my website. 

Marc O Special user The Netherlands 744 Posts 
Thank you sir! everything clear now.
No stack + birthday revelation, best of both worlds! 

Kynean New user France 94 Posts 
Ordered yesterday ! I'm looking forward to receiving your book ! Happy PiDay !


MatthewSims Special user 771 Posts 
Hi Vincent,
So if the birthday does not require you to know a stack, then what is the difference between the books being stacked and non stacked? Does the stacked book allow you to perform other effects? Also, about how much time should I expect to practice before being able to perform this. Not in a rush or anything, just curious. Thanks, Matthew 

Vincent Hedan New user France 46 Posts 
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On Mar 14, 2016, MatthewSims wrote: This has been answered in my previous posts here, and on the video on my website Quote:
On Mar 14, 2016, MatthewSims wrote: If you know a stack well and buy a stack version, you'll be up and running in 10 minutes. If you don't know a stack and buy the stackless version, you'll have a little something to memorize, let's say the same length as a very short nursery rhyme. 

MatthewSims Special user 771 Posts 
Sounds good. I just sent you a PM.


Mark_Chandaue Inner circle Essex UK 3565 Posts 
Here#s a question. if you get the stackless version can you later update to a stack version without having to buy the whole thing again? I know BCS and The Solution but I wasn't confident I am quick enough with either to perform the second effect so I went for the stackless.
Mark
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Vincent Hedan New user France 46 Posts 
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On Mar 14, 2016, Mark_Chandaue wrote: Each version is a different book so you would have to buy a new book if you wanted to change version. 

Marc O Special user The Netherlands 744 Posts 
Just ordered the Stackless version, now I have got something to read during my evening shift in a few hours
Looking forward to receiving the book and going out to perform this. People around me have seen me solve rubic cubes and memorised complete card decks, now Pi takes it a whole step further! To bad I will be in the US during your lecture in Belgium pretty soon, would have loved to drive from Holland to meet you there. 

craigwest New user 53 Posts 
I have also ordered the Stackless version, and am really looking forward to this. It's a nice touch that instructions are available immediately, so that buyers can be "memorizing the little something" while waiting for the book to arrive.
Craig 

Mark_Chandaue Inner circle Essex UK 3565 Posts 
Where are the instructions available? I ordered this several days ago and did not receive any instructions.
Mark
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craigwest New user 53 Posts 
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On Mar 15, 2016, Mark_Chandaue wrote: After my Paypal payment went through, I was taken to a page that contained links to PDF instructions. Craig 

Mark_Chandaue Inner circle Essex UK 3565 Posts 
I was merely redirected to the main page. I would certainly have liked to receive the instructions. Perhaps they were added once the product went live. If someone with the stack less instructions would like to send me the instructions I have proof of purchase in the form of my PayPal receipt.
Mark
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Mark_Chandaue Inner circle Essex UK 3565 Posts 
Ok it was me being stupid, ordered on my iPhone and switched to another tab. Fortunately the tab was still there so able to download the instructions.
I would say if you know a stack go for the stack version. This is something that is going to take a lot of work unless you already know a stack intimately. The stackless version needs some serious mental gymnastics to perform the second effect anywhere near the speed that it is performed on the demo. I don't know either of my stacks well enough to get even 10% of that speed. If I'm honest I'm probably going to find it easier to memorise the sequence of numbers that learn the words and calculate the sequence on the fly. This is a great effect but it will take a lot of effort to be able to perform it as well as Vincent does and I would say that the stackless version is probably harder than learning a good stack intimately and you get the added benefit of knowing the stack too. Now I have to decide whether to simply work harder on my stack and get that version rather than putting the effort into the stackless version. Mark
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