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ringmaster Inner circle Memphis, Down in Dixie 1974 Posts |
With ungimmiced routines like Karol Fox's and the various solid cup handlings do we really need the augmented cups ?
One of the last living 10-in-one performers. I wanted to be in show business the worst way, and that was it.
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Bill Palmer Eternal Order Only Jonathan Townsend has more than 24312 Posts |
If you don't understand why having a chop cup is advantageous, then send all of your chop cups to me.
Seriously, there is not ONE, SINGLE, routine with an ungimmicked cup that will completely duplicate a good chop cup routine. BTW, if you are a professional or semi-professional magician, you really owe it to the greats like Karrell Fox to learn how to spell their names.
"The Swatter"
Founder of CODBAMMC My Chickasaw name is "Throws Money at Cups." www.cupsandballsmuseum.com |
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ringmaster Inner circle Memphis, Down in Dixie 1974 Posts |
Thank you Bill.
At one time I did show Mr, Fox enough respect to own ALL of his books. I had to trade all of them to Dr John Stanford (sp ?) for emergency dental work.
One of the last living 10-in-one performers. I wanted to be in show business the worst way, and that was it.
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Bill Palmer Eternal Order Only Jonathan Townsend has more than 24312 Posts |
Bummer! I understand that one completely. I've had my share of root canals and other work.
"The Swatter"
Founder of CODBAMMC My Chickasaw name is "Throws Money at Cups." www.cupsandballsmuseum.com |
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afinemesh Inner circle Senseless gibberish that amounts to 2621 Posts |
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On 2012-03-29 19:59, Bill Palmer wrote: Or me, Bill has plenty.
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Terry Holley Inner circle 1805 Posts |
The "purist's" may disagree with me, but IMHO and in deference to Dai Vernon and his classic routine, the chop cup takes the cups and balls to another level. So here's to the chop cup!
Terry
Co-author with illusionist Andre' Kole of "Astrology and Psychic Phenomena."
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Dacodakid Regular user Marina Del Rey, CA 133 Posts |
The Chop Cup is okay I guess. Just bought my wife a Juicer. She loves it! No more Chopping!
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gdw Inner circle 4884 Posts |
I developed a routine that is half way between a cups and balls routine, and a chop cup routine, originally I gimmicked. I originally approached it as more of a C&B routine and never wanted to chop the "cup," however through one in once for the hell of it.
The routine actually doesn't need it, and I only really utilise it once, maybe twice in the routine, bit I think it's still worth it. The chop cup is kind of like the tt to the bill change, IMHO. It's not necessary, but can be usefull, if you want it to be.
"You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one."
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Steven Steele Chief of Staff 1868 Posts |
Sometimes it has to do with real estate. I can use a chop cup for a strolling situation, whereas I could never do the same with the cups and balls. I have both and will perform whatever is best for the particular situation.
Coram Deo
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funsway Inner circle old things in new ways - new things in old ways 9982 Posts |
Great fun performing for magicians who think you are using a Chop CUp when you are not ...
so, you "need" their understanding of a Chop Cup in order to craft the garden path
"the more one pretends at magic, the more awe and wonder will be found in real life." Arnold Furst
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Bill Palmer Eternal Order Only Jonathan Townsend has more than 24312 Posts |
If you understand the chop cup, you will eventually figure out ways of eliminating the obvious from the performance. Bear in mind that even magicians who know what a TT is can be fooled by it if you use it correctly.
Question: When you perform, how much do you get paid? Do the guys at your magic club pay you more or less than the parents of the birthday kid? You don't need to answer this. Basically, the only magicians you will earn a living from are the ones who book you for lectures and the ones who buy your tricks and books. So learn how to fool "real people."
"The Swatter"
Founder of CODBAMMC My Chickasaw name is "Throws Money at Cups." www.cupsandballsmuseum.com |
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Atom3339 Inner circle Spokane, WA 3242 Posts |
Bill, your advice is always GREAT!
TH
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Woland Special user 680 Posts |
Not only "fool," of course, but "entertain," "delight," "amuse," "move," and "instruct" . . . . .
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Pete Biro 1933 - 2018 18558 Posts |
RIGHT
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djkuttdecks Special user Portland 662 Posts |
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Pete Biro 1933 - 2018 18558 Posts |
My order of preference... Nutty Suruprise, Bowl routine, Cups & Balls, Chop Cup. Based on the ENTERAINMENT/FUN value I get out of them. I don't think I have used a chop cup in 3 years. Just got the Buddha cup, but the release issue will have to be addressed before I could think of using it.
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bishthemagish Inner circle 6013 Posts |
I like the chop cup - I have used it on stage as well as close up for years. I also would never do a close up show without it. At this time I am looking for a larger cup to use on stage again.
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Jon Blakeney Special user Australia 657 Posts |
Maby yes ,maby no.
Since falling in love with the cups n balls my chop cup hardly ever gets used any more. As the cups n balls are in every show I do The chop cup only comes out for guests on a special occasion.
'What the eye's see the heart must believe"
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Rainboguy Inner circle 1915 Posts |
Bill:
Just out of curiosity.....how many chop cups do you currently have in the Museum? Also, what is your personal favorite chop cup? (I know this depends on performance circumstances, etc., but I'm just curious) |
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Bill Palmer Eternal Order Only Jonathan Townsend has more than 24312 Posts |
There are currently 341 sets on the site. I have a few more to photograph. I'd say, total, 355 chop cups, not including cups in combo sets.
The one I use most is an Italian leather cup that was purchased from Tannen's many years ago.
"The Swatter"
Founder of CODBAMMC My Chickasaw name is "Throws Money at Cups." www.cupsandballsmuseum.com |
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