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Spare me AA...
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PS,

AA, you are right, there is far too much conspiracy, cajoling, and teaming amongst members here to comfortably trade/buy from most of the ToJ members.

Unfortunately we're left with FEEbay and the deception there exceeds anything you'll see around here.

The best way to combat the clowns around here is to simply not deal with them.
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JM Talbot

I am glad that your dealing with Nicolino have been good, but what does that have to do with the poor manner in which he has dealt with me. You do not know about our dealing so why do you think you are qualified to comment on them.

I think you big fish, (what did your group call yourselves a while back when this same exact subject matter was brought up, Tenyo Old Boys Club) don't like a new fish coming around with some new ideas. I guess you have it all figured out. My writings are all here for all to see and you will not see the smug BS you guys posted during that debate of the same topic a while back.

http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewt......orum=258

Most that is talked about here in the Tenyo forum is how much a trick costs. Does anyone perform a Tenyo trick. I tried to add some good content and new ideas but I guess it is just going to be Oink Oink as usual.

AA

P.S. Karma is practice by more than a billion people as a way of life every day.
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Houdini,

My concept was so simple. Let's help each other out to make all out collections all that we want them to be.

Now I am being attacked for pointing out that people who are opposed were contaminating the concept.

Any way thanks for the support. It was three against one there for a while. And isn't it funny this has gone on before with the same exact group.

AA
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Ron,

I am sorry that this thread turned into a ugly mess. Hopefully the right people will contact you to do business.

AA
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AA I believe I am qualified to share my experiences with Felix as much as you are.... Unless I missed the memo.

It is fun to banter... But I am now taking my wife to dinner... She thinks that is very good karma of me.
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I love how "The Tenyo Old Boys Club" is now trying to warp this to make me out to be the bad guy when all I was doing was calling a spade a spade.

You are trying to attach to me bad Karma but you know nothing of Karma. I am not trying to make a good person look bad, just trying to expose a greedy person for what they are. Nothing wrong with that. I guess you want to bleed people dry of their money but still be considered great human beings. Sorry you can't have both.

I like stereo's site and have said glowing things about him and his site at least a half dozen times (not an exaggeration). But when I see above a person who is selling his trick for a new record Tenyo price but is not happy because he still wants to keep his trick. That is as ugly as greed can get.
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I'm back...we decided to order pizza in. Please keep posting AA your true colors are showing.
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JMT

The memo was mind your own business.

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Yea I ignored that one. Sorry when I see people I like and respect publicly slammed I support them. There are many on here I would do the same for.
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Can't keep posting. I am actually going to take my wife out for dinner now. We are going for Thai. It fits the theme, you know Karma, Asia. Oh right you don't know, it is just Koolaide to you. That was an ignorant response. Why don't you keep posting to show how little you know about what I was trying to accomplish here.

Oh right you were the one who received their item first in the Good Tenyo Karma Club. A hard to find Crossroads. A trick that hardly ever appears on the auction site and hours after listing your "Holy Grail Item" not one, but two Crossroads are on the auction block and you won one. I remember writing you a PM telling you that I would yield on bidding even though it was nicer that the one I got because I wanted you to get it. That's a novel idea, thinking of someone else before yourself. Novel at least as it goes with the Tenyo Old Boys Club. Looking back I remember you being into the Good Karma thing when it suited you but now that you got what you want, you make fun of it and gang up on me. What a nice guy you are. I bet you are getting anchovies on your pizza because as far as I am concerned you stink.

P.S. One more time, Karma is practice by more than a billion people as a way of life every day. It is not a novel idea.
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AA,

The "Tenyo Old Boys Club" is not a club you would want to be a part of. If you ever saw "Every which way but loose", they are a lot like the motorcycle gang that consistently and unsuccessfully tries to take down Philo Beddo. I might add that the Tenyo Old Boys Club looks like them too! Smile

My favorite character in the movie is Clyde!
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AA, I ultimately got the Crossroads because I was prepared to pay the most that day for it. I appreciated you bringing it to my attention and offering not to bid that was a nice thing to do and I have done the same for others in the past. I am having a hard time connecting that person to what I am seeing here.

Have had my say... Enjoy your Thai
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Did AA say new ideas? I don't remember new ideas.
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On 2012-04-13 20:07, The Amazing Azzam wrote:
my purposes is not to judge people :

"You are either too young or two ignorant to understand what I tried to tell you. "

"I think some were even jealous"

"I think you big fish"

"That is as ugly as greed can get."

etc etc etc etc ...


Ok ... You spend your time judging instead.


I sell my "ultra tube" because I have no choice, even if it was sold $ 1000000 I'd be sad to separate.
Sad to separate a trick of my collection, sad as it is an object which I love, because it is a part of me and something that gives me pleasure in life wich is not always easy.

I'm not sad because I was hoping more money ... idiot.

And I assure you, nobody is jealous of you, there is someone who is egocentric to imagine this kind of thing ....

Since the first day I came across this forum I have never been disappointed by someone, everyone has always seemed fair, intelligent, balanced, nice. I am sad today to finish all this because of you.

Maybe I d'on't understand all because of the language, but what I saw you today is the most detestable thing that I have seen in ages. I think you should be ashamed of you, and before say others are either too young or two ignorant to understand I think you should question yourself about your attitude in total contradiction to what you seem to leave.
We have exchanged 3/4 mails, very factual in relation to trade, I was always pleasant, and now I discover that you think that ? And you infer a whole lot of value judgment... This is totally delusional. I do not understand, I'm even shocked. That's life. But what I am certain, is that you're wrong.

I would answer no more, is useless, but you managed to spoil my pleasure to come here, to spoil my pleasure to always try to do my best even if it is not perfect, I am sad and disappointed.

Your Good Karma has variable shape my dear... There is nothing that you say that is good Karma. I never want to hear this word of my life elsewhere. You killed that might mean.
I say goodbye.
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Stereo,

Come on man, the drama in this thread is no different than what we have seen before. I don't think your being attacked or singled out. You're well liked and everyone knows you're a SERIOUS (pun intended) Tenyo collector.

The problem with this forum is that there is a few bad apples that ruin it for everyone. That said, there are also a few bad apples in every bunch.

When new people join, Nicolino and others jump them and solicite Tenyo sales to them. By the time the new user gets savvy on pricing, value, and availability, they discover patterns of deceit and con-artistry.

This is the reason I blew the whole Presto magic thing wide open, it's ugly when supposed collector's are making vast sums on each other. That's not collecting, that's sharking.

I have a vast Tenyo collection and am always willing to strike a FAIR trade. AA has proven alright by me and reputable and a solid communicator. I can honestly say that other than med_doc7, I've studied sales data at greater lengths and at greater detail than anyone in this forum. There are people who THINK they know what something is worth and those who actually know. There is too much price gouging, price fixing, sensationalized promotion to exaggerate rarity, and bad will in this forum.

I have often wondered how many of you would be around if Tenyo magic had no collectible value. I guess only a quarter of the populace would still be actively talking about Tenyo.

I'm here to help (HTH) and am glad to share the film-flam, cons, and subterfuge I have seen with Tenyo magic.
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And AA I'm curious to know how old you think I...
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Great show so far, only thing missing is a bag of Popcorn...

Karmageddon (2012)


Plot summary:

Nothing fancy: two altruistic guys fighting the clowns!

Best quote

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On 2012-04-13 19:46, The Amazing Azzam wrote:
But when I see above a person who is selling his trick for a new record Tenyo price but is not happy because he still wants to keep his trick. That is as ugly as greed can get.


Continuity goofs

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On 2012-04-13 18:15, stereo wrote:
100 euros for Ninja experiment is normal price, the price actually on ebay are not normal prices

Interesting. Mr. Amazing demanded $230.
Must be the Karma...

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On 2012-04-13 19:23, The Amazing Azzam wrote:
My concept was so simple. Let's help each other out

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On 2012-04-13 18:55, The Amazing Azzam wrote:
I [...] like to make profits on the spares that I find.


Trivia

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On 2012-04-13 18:15, stereo wrote:
I am EXTREMELY disappointed that in your mind send me a photo to participate in the blog makes you think I should accept any deal to please you in return. I thought you did with pleasure without expecting something in return.

Everybody here who had the chance has contributed open minded and without expectations to your blog, Davy.
And everybody who did got paid off for their effort, just by making your site even more complete and colourful.
Please don't let those comments drag you down.


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On 2012-04-13 20:25, dragonash wrote:
Did AA say new ideas? I don't remember new ideas.

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On 2012-04-13 18:55, The Amazing Azzam wrote:
I was just trying to influence people...

Yes, he tried to introduce the Karma-thing.
Which translates, as we now know: "Be grateful for any offer I make because I'm the Got of Karma and sell me your tricks for next to nothing." Smile

Summary

Although the story seems rather weak and boring, Karmageddon offers one hour of solid entertainment for the not-so-fastidious.
Sure, it's way too long for what it is, but the main characters do a brilliant job and are dauntingly disturbing.

3 out of 5
The Mati Envelope
A brandnew peek device for the working mentalist!

Chance's Token
Tarot cards in a scenic piece of mystery.....
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Excuse me as I would like to take the thread I started back and use it for the purpose that I started it for; to talk about people doing nice things for people when it comes to buying and selling Tenyo.

First here is a picture of the Gem Mint items I got from Ron at Magicshop.NL. Check out the cool Rope to Silk. I previously only had the Japanese version from Hitomi. I loved adding this one to my collection and it was only $20. In fact all of the items are for my collection.

Ron, if someone calls and tries to buy all of the Rope to Silk, take his name, but don't sell them to him. We have a hoarder amongst us that buys out tricks to sell and leaves none for people who really want the trick for their collection. I wonder who that might be?

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Here are two of the three items I bought from That's Cool for $100 this week. Yes that is a packaged Ultra Tube. Thanks That's Cool, you make me a happy Tenyo collector. The trick is really cool and will go right in my Tenyo Case.

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On 2012-04-14 11:24, The Amazing Azzam wrote:

Ron, if someone calls and tries to buy all of the Rope to Silk, take his name, but don't sell them to him. We have a hoarder amongst us that buys out tricks to sell and leaves none for people who really want the trick for their collection. I wonder who that might be?




I see you have buy 9 new Ninja Experiment and more than 10 Eyes of idols, you speak about you ?

I love the sentence about denouncement, and the fact of asking Ron to note the name ( and after he does what? sent you that you make justice?), here in France it is reminiscent of the darkest hours of history, so so so bad Karma....

Worse and worse frankly, it makes me sorry the top of my 31 years ...
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