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Magic Rik Loyal user Eastern Canada 296 Posts |
Hi all - I would like to build a Square-Circle (or a Square Square. Do not want to give away secrets - so, if this does not make sense - PM me.)
The one I re-built for Perley was the classic - one square, two circles - has anyone built two squares and one circle. I am having trouble finding two circles that fit properly and if I am building from scratch - one C is easy to find and two Bs are easy to build. Comments, suggestions or rolling on the floor laughing - thinking - what a kook! |
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billappleton Inner circle Los Gatos, California 1154 Posts |
Mr. Jay Leslie can build a nice solid tube with your desired diameter, here is one he did for me:
http://www.dreamfactory.com/magic/square_circle.jpg |
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Magic Rik Loyal user Eastern Canada 296 Posts |
Bill
That is a beautiful job! My tiny challenge is that I live in Canada and sometime shipping stuff here is a PITA. My second challenge is I want to build it myself if I can. Thanks mate |
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mvmagic Inner circle Has written 1322 Posts |
Have you checked out Home Depot's plumbing section? Or any place that sells plumbing supplies? I've used plastic (PVC maybe, not sure) sewer pipe in the past for square circles and other things that need tubes. Easy to tool, seamless (unlike rolled metal) and won't corrode. Also found a piece that allowed me to take everything away from the base whilst loaded.
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Magic Rik Loyal user Eastern Canada 296 Posts |
MV - were you able to find two "plastic" tubes that fit each other or are you suggesting I go with my square - square idea with an inner plastic circle?
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mvmagic Inner circle Has written 1322 Posts |
I was able to find two plastic tubes that fit each other, maybe a quarter of an inch in between. Outer one was a plumbing tube, the inner one sort of "generic" tubing. I'd suggest one square, two circles.
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Magic Rik Loyal user Eastern Canada 296 Posts |
MV - I will go there tomorrow! Thanks
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John Martin Inner circle 1017 Posts |
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I am having trouble finding two circles that fit properly and if I am building from scratch Go to your grocery store. The shelves are line with round tubes...tin cans. Find two that suit your needs. The inner one can be covered with felt and the out one will paint up nicely. And you'll get a meal at the same time!!! LOL. Good luck, John |
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AGMagic Special user Cailf. 775 Posts |
PLEASE do not use felt. Use only black velvet or black triple velvet. They absorb the ambient light much more completely and make the effect more magical.
Tim Silver - http://www.facebook.com/pages/Magic-Woodshop/122578214436546
I know you believe you understand what you think I said, but I am not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant. Visualize Whirled Peas! |
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Magic Rik Loyal user Eastern Canada 296 Posts |
AG - what about flat black spray paint??
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AGMagic Special user Cailf. 775 Posts |
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On 2012-04-29 17:16, Capt.Hook wrote: Spray paint, even Krylon ultra-flat black is way too reflective. Actually black felt would be better. However, velvet works best because the fibers stand up and absorb the light. Triple velvet is available on line for less than $10 a yard. It can be glued effectively with Scotch 77 or similar spray adheasive. You may also want to cover the inside of the square for consistancy. Black flocking might also work, but it can be quite messy to work with. I have used a velvet like photo background material that works fairly well if there is only one cut-out in the square tube. If you do a double cut-out like Mark Wilson's AllaKazam hat the light issues get really tricky and require lots of experimentation to get it right. If you are making a square circle you want to be able to use it under all lighting conditions so go the extra mile and make the illusion as deceptive as possible.
Tim Silver - http://www.facebook.com/pages/Magic-Woodshop/122578214436546
I know you believe you understand what you think I said, but I am not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant. Visualize Whirled Peas! |
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Dynamike Eternal Order FullTimer 24148 Posts |
I used Triple Velvet on mine: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckBLZFiEuUM
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Ekuth Inner circle Floating above my 1538 Posts |
Triple velvet for BA. It's the only reliable material.
'Nuff said.
"All you need is in Fitzkee."
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Levi Bennett Inner circle 1778 Posts |
Nice stuff Dynamike!
Performing magic unprofessionally since 2008!
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Higgenbottom New user 84 Posts |
What size device do you want? Building supply stores carry cardboard tubes, in various diameters, for pouring concrete columns. There are several nominal diameters, and even those of the same nominal diameter actually nest for shipping.
I used three of them to make a circle-circle. If you're going the square-square route, why have the third a circle? |
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JamesinLA Inner circle Los Angeles 3400 Posts |
I used a stovepipe for the inner tube and then made my own outer tube from sheet aluminum. I've been using it for 8 years. The aluminum tube is easy to make. Just fold over a 1/2 inch fold in opposite directions from each end of the sheet, fit them into each other, and then flatten them together.
Jim
Oh, my friend we're older but no wiser, for in our hearts the dreams are still the same...
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Magic Rik Loyal user Eastern Canada 296 Posts |
Thanks all - I have completed my Circle Square
1 - I used Triple velvet inside the box and on the outside of the metal single malt whisky container 2 - I built the box from plywood 3 - I used a 6" sewer pipe cut down and closed to make a nice fit 4 - I am REALLY happy with it. And yes - I'll post pictures when I get around to it. :) Rik |
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mrmetropolis Regular user who has only made 155 Posts |
Nice to hear when a project gets finished. I have a couple that need to get done as well...
"For those who believe, no explanation is necessary, for those who do not, none will suffice".-Joseph Dunninger http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4wL5fX3xGQ
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JamesinLA Inner circle Los Angeles 3400 Posts |
Sewer pipe sounds heavy. How thick are the walls?
Oh, my friend we're older but no wiser, for in our hearts the dreams are still the same...
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Magic Rik Loyal user Eastern Canada 296 Posts |
James - it is heavier than stove pipe but not too much so - and mine has dried mud on one side and where I cut it to make a smaller diameter it has duct tape on it and fits with my "Story" about buying a Magic Pipe from a homeless person who wanted $200.00 for it but settled for $1.50 so he could get a cup of coffee.
It is white plastic and certainly not too heavy. Rik |
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