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Mitch150 New user Deep in the Lake County 17 Posts |
Back in the day, when I was learning this business, I made my own Invisible Deck. We used roughing fluid on the backs, and set the cards / evens "up" / odds "down". This is how I learned the thing.
Last month I bought a new deck from Magic Makers. I won't go into how this one works, but if you have one you know. NOW is it easier to work with the old deck, as a direct reveal, or more mysterious to work with the new and it's math / deck set? I like the way the old ones work, with holding the cards up - but this new one also interests me. Which do you find looks better? Maybe use both? With the new ones available in any brick and mortar, or on line, the older ones without the publicity maybe better to use. Just asking .... Mitch
It is easier to try than to prove it can't be done.
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Chris Henderson Special user Indiana -- Anyone w/ no life would have 563 Posts |
I'm not completely sure what you are getting at as it does not appear you are supplying enough information, because I don't know of any other basic setup other than the one you described. But then again, I think I am missing something in your question.
It is my understanding that an Invisible deck appears to the spectator as all face up with the one named card faced down, while a Brainwave Deck appears to the spectator as all face down cards with the one named card face up. Brainwave has the roughing applied to the faces and you just count the backs of the cards as you spread with spades/clubs on one side and hearts/diamonds on the other. Invisible Deck has the roughing applied to the backs and it is an odd/even set up. As for the mine I set up my Invisible deck using the memorized Aronson stack. That way it appears to the spectator to be much more of a random arrangement of cards and they won't see any black/red or odd/even patterns and it helps keep my memory of the stack sharp by forcing me to use it in more effects. It's an idea I got from a Café member whose name escapes me at the moment.
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Michael J Veteran user UK 334 Posts |
Hi Mitch150
I concur with Chris Henderson. I used to do Brainwave and then later on I learnt the Nicola Stack and since then have moved to the ID, set up with this stack. It certainly is a random arrangement as far as the spectator is concerned. All the best Michael |
Mitch150 New user Deep in the Lake County 17 Posts |
Just a post back -
MY original deck was made by me, following instructions in an old book, which described this item. It worked well for ages. As I said, it was assembled with roughing fluid, then stacked evens and odds. This made a nice view, as most could or would not recognize that something was missing from the spread. The new Magic Makers deck, which a bought to replace my old one, I thought would come ready to roll the old way. It wasn't. there is a new system out there, and I like it. Just asking for anyone's experience in using the new one v/s the old methods. I guess I am going out on a limb by saying this, but it seems to me that many of the trick decks are just variations on existing decks in some form. From my perspective, there is about four basic gaffed decks - Stripper, Svengali, Invisible, and Marked. Once you get the basic idea, and have mastered these, the rest falls into place. One can do other effects with those, or in some combination of two decks on the same effect. The Fa-Ko deck provides the gaffed cards if you want to toss in some curves. Thankfully most today are using Bicycle Red Rider backs. For my money this is the one big thing which has made special decks work better. Cards with odd backs cause red flags to come up right away. With Rider backs, they "look like" regular cards, and one can switch in and out a standard red or blue backed deck without much notice. My original Aladdin Svengali cards had a funny back, and were spotted right away as being a trick deck. With the Bicycle decks, nobody is the wiser. Just my experience, and I was wondering what this forum's regulars thought of the new system. Mitch
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