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This thread is funny.
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Anybody who drives under the influence of alcohol or pot is a dangerous idiot. And anyone who would get in a car with a driver under the influence is an idiot. In order to drive all your senses must be sharp.

As for the EMT question, I'm sure Lobo can speak for himself, but his point was clearly that just because fewer accidents are caused by pot smokers, it doesn't mean that driving while smoking is safe. It may just mean that there are fewer pot smoking drivers than drunk drivers. For example, driving while blindfolded (unless you're Cassidy) is clearly not safe, but I doubt EMTs have come across many accidents caused by blindfolded drivers.

Please don't drink or smoke while driving. You may not care about your life, but other lives are on the line.
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On 2012-06-06 06:53, landmark wrote:

As for the EMT question, I'm sure Lobo can speak for himself, but his point was clearly that just because fewer accidents are caused by pot smokers, it doesn't mean that driving while smoking is safe. It may just mean that there are fewer pot smoking drivers than drunk drivers. For example, driving while blindfolded (unless you're Cassidy) is clearly not safe, but I doubt EMTs have come across many accidents caused by blindfolded drivers.



It's such an easy point to see when you're not stoned.
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Well, landmark, on this one, I agree with you 100%!!
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100% agreement from me also....this is a special day Smile

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Leagalized marijuana will turn into another right within ten years then we will have a stoned welfare recipient class. That will be nice.
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1984. Soma. In 10 years, the government will need something to keep the rabble placid, complacent.

But ultimately, I think, the uber-issue is about Cannabis being a powerful medicine and at the least, a palliative that doesn't kill you as a side effect.

I predict a time when the strains will be regulated for purity and the combinations/hybrids specific for illnesses and conditions. Prescription drug making you spacey and disjointed? Romulan. Pills making you logy and sluggish? The doctor will also prescribe a medium Sativa to go along with it. Health professionals will specialize is determining the strains best for certain conditions AND for certain prescription drug side effects.

Just its ability to take pain from in front of your face and put it in the background is enough to make it an effective medicine.

It won't be long before the growers can separate the medicinal properties from the mental effect properties, and thus be able to control both as needed. THEN it will be OK to drive, as no one will be 'high' or impaired. Just medicated, without that mental thang going on.

But Weed as Soma is not to be discounted, whether you are for it or against it. It's da future.
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Thanks, Mr. Jorgenson. I think you may be right. But SOMA was not from George Orwell's 1984, it was from Aldous Huxley's remarkably prescient Brave New World. Highly recommended. Many things that seemed wildly fanciful when I first read the book 40 years ago are now almost a reality. Didn't understand it at all then, understand it all too well now.
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Thanks for the correction...time to reread both, I think. In my fantasies, I am in Paris reading Hesse, Huxley and Orwell for months at a time. Now that I am old enough to kind of comprehend them, I've forgotten what they said.
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Hesse is another one whose works I did not really understand 40 years ago. Although I did not read the Glasperlenspiel until just a few years ago. I'm thinking of Siddhartha and the Journey to the East.
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On 2012-06-06 12:09, GlenD wrote:
Leagalized marijuana will turn into another right within ten years then we will have a stoned welfare recipient class. That will be nice.


Do you realize how biased that makes you sound? The wealthy smoke as much weed as the poor. (And probably more so since they can afford it.)

Do you think that only the "welfare class" uses drugs? That is demonstrably false.
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There's plenty of legal SOMA already, from the Internet to Oxycotine. I don't see any particular evil from pot.
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The wealthy smoke as much weed as the poor. (And probably more so since they can afford it.)


Well now we know who's smoking all of that primo hydroponic Norte Americano stuff Smile
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I get the fact that recreational users (and addicts) are among every level. Sorry you extrapolated some kind of inherent bias from what I said. But it is true that smoking a lot of pot makes many people not only mellow and laid back but unmotivated and a lot more prone to sit around and dwell on things for no apparent reason or just for laughs. That's all fine and good but some cant get beyond that, if you know what I mean. Trust me I have had some "experimental" experiences in my "ahem" youth. And back then, I seriously thought that everyone was smoking weed, whether they admitted it publicly or not. I now don't think that way anymore but things were different back then.

On another note, what about those that have professions where drug testing is employed periodically or randomly? Are they still going to be penalized and not allowed to participate in the new "get high legally craze"? Where, say someone smokes on Saturday, goes to work sober on Monday gets tested and FAILS and is now unemployed... Big bummer. I guess it all comes down to people still have to make responsible decisions, regardless of what becomes legal etc.

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You live in LA how many medical marijuana shops are there in your town. Medical marijuana is available in 17 states.

Wake up and smell the coffee guys.
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On 2012-06-06 18:23, GlenD wrote:
what about those that have professions where drug testing is employed periodically or randomly?

If you drive for a living and fail the test regularly....Don't worry,you'll be headhunted.
Think how much a logistics companys insurance premium will fall when they have all the safest drivers on
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On 2012-06-06 18:54, Al Angello wrote:
Glen
You live in LA how many medical marijuana shops are there in your town. Medical marijuana is available in 17 states.


...and illegal in all 17.
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley.

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How do you suppose all those illegal shops stay in business?

How many legal or illegal medical marijuana shops are in the Los Angeles area?

Try to give me a straight answer counselor.
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Why not ask me Al? There are 372 in Los Angele, all ordered to shut down.
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