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Bill Hegbli Eternal Order Fort Wayne, Indiana 22797 Posts |
I always wanted a Line-O-Silks Production steamer, and I recently obtained a Line of Flags. I am having trouble finding a good method to load/stuff them in the production appratus so they come out one at a time. Has anyone developed a method for loading such a production streamer into a small packet for production?
References would be nice in case my search missed the obvious, like the Tarbell Course instructions, or the Rice Encyclopedia of Silk Magic. One idea is doing the Duke's Dye Version, but as I said, I am lost on the loading of the individual silks on a line. |
chmara Inner circle Tucson, AZ 1911 Posts |
I always used a "box" device for production of the line -- my favorite being a Phantom tube with centered gimmick I could hold while assistant or spectator pulled them out. That way the stuffing was:
1: ribbon across top is folded outside the flat silks on either side alternately. 2. depending upon the size of flag or silk - from the side opposite the ribbon (bottom) fold up in a zig zag fold - moving the attached and folded silks to several distinct bundles. 3.Place bundles in appliance -- remember first in is last out. Assure that the ribbons running between the bundles form a continuous direction (particularly in a round appliance) and do not fall under a previous bundle. Make sure your end tab of ribbon is out of sight but accessible to you. 4. Pull at a moderate speed for production -- even one at a time jerks with the right ribbon/silk length. The beauty of this trick is how long the end production looks to the audience. Now for body or sleeve production the problem becomes keeping the ribbon untangled while producing the line while assuring that the silks do not grab each other with static cling and create a premature reveal. I found the Z of the zig zag gold on each silk, while time consuming to do right, worth the effort. A long table is best -- and bundling with the ribbon can begin AFTER each silk has been folded. It has been years since I tried body loads with this style, but I seem to remember that I started folding first to last -- again Z folding the folded silk and ribbon into thirds using the previously folded ribbon-silk to go on top of the next and so-on until the last silk-ribbon fold is made. How you hold it together will depend upon where you load it -- and if you are really into silks a gaffed jacket (special) pocket would be an ideal place for a body load. If you are going to retrieve the bundle behind a shield - to produce the string from your "bare hands" a simple paper or thread carrier (ditch-able) will keep it together until used,
Gregg (C. H. Mara) Chmara
Commercial Operations, LLC Tucson, AZ C. H. Mara Illusion & Psychic Entertainments |
Bob Sanders Grammar Supervisor Magic Valley Ranch, Clanton, Alabama 20504 Posts |
Bill,
I should be up your way end of July and again in October. Maybe I can show you then. Bob Sanders Magic By Sander |
Bill Hegbli Eternal Order Fort Wayne, Indiana 22797 Posts |
Thanks, that gives me some place to start, the zigzag fold makes sense. I think a Line-O-Silks or/and Flags would be more impressive then a streamer, even though a streamer is easier form a pre show perspective, I don't mind the extra work for the end results to the audience.
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Bob Sanders Grammar Supervisor Magic Valley Ranch, Clanton, Alabama 20504 Posts |
Line of Silks doesn't twist like streamers do! Worst case is that a silk flips over the line but does not affect the others and still can be recognized as a silk/flag.
Bill, I really like the point you make about preparation is specifically about end results. Unwillingness to put in the preparation for a good show is just another indicator of a "phoned in" performance. Bob PS --- Our Line of Silks sets come pre-pressed to make preparation a no brainer. The end silk is black to prevent flashing. |
TheGreatNancini Veteran user Ohio 373 Posts |
I love and use both sizes of Bob's Line of silks, and setting a resetting is a breeze the way Bob showed us. Of course it really helps to have two people.
~Nanci |
RJE2 Veteran user 383 Posts |
Pat made up an oversized dove holder for me that I produce a line of silks from. Each flag is folded and the line is accordian, or zigzag folded and then placed into the holder. I wear it as a b**y l**d and steal it into a large silk and produce the line from the silk.
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Bob Sanders Grammar Supervisor Magic Valley Ranch, Clanton, Alabama 20504 Posts |
A little hint that helps keep your Line-O-Silks ready before the show is the rubber tipped clip (looks like a plastic clothes pin). Even Dollar Tree usually has them. Photographers cleaning out their old darkrooms often put bags of them in yard sales.
Don't forget to take it off before the show! |
Rainboguy Inner circle 1915 Posts |
A couple of years ago, I purchased one of Bob's 18' Line of Silks, as well as a matching 18 inch silk for each color in the line, and wondered what to do with them, aside from the obvious Crystal Silk Cylinder or Change Bag switches (Both of which work, by the way, depending on the size of your apparatus)....
BUT...I wanted to do something DIFFERENT...... So one day, while watching an old Al Flosso video which was, I think, posted here on the Café..I decided I would try a body load on an audience spectator....... Ridiculosuly simple setup..I won't tip it here, but let's just say that I think Al would have been proud of me. It takes more guts than anything...and proper stage blocking and spectator management and misdirection, but darn.....did it ever go over. You just need to be wearing a jacket and use a spectator who is wearing one.... Ridiculously easy...and FUN! |
Jimmy Joza Special user New York City 760 Posts |
From time to time, I do a variation of Pavel's News Silks Knotting in which the Line of Silks is produced from a newspaper. I live in NYC, so I have used the 12 inch Line of Silks with smaller tabloids (NY Daily News of NY Post) and have used the 18 inch Line of Silks with the NY Times. Just another take on using these. Ny the way, I also use Bob Sander's Line of Silks. These are great quality.
"Those who simply walk in others' tracks leave no footprints."
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