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1. My children - not an original answer but this still comes tops - by a long way
2. A handfull of times during my life I have experienced true and profound happiness - even though those moments have been few it makes the rest of it worth it.
3. It's better than the alternative.

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The main thing that keeps me going is the unknown mystery aspect of life. There is no way of knowing what's going to happen next except to stay alive and see it for yourself.

If I killed myself someone would make another Friday the 13th and I'd miss seeing the retard cut up teenagers up on the silver screen.

I'd miss out on delicious food.
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So, can any of you fathom why people would commit suicide when they have a family - example beyond my friends who have done it - a neighbour down the street hung herself in the basement while her 4 year old son was watching tv and her husband was out.

In certain mind states- death beats the alternative of life - even with family.

I'm working on effects to help people understand - so, just wanted to start a discussion to help hone some anticipated dialogue

I think often it's hard for people to reach out to those contemplating the end because it's so alien to their current way of thinking.

IMHO
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I think the love needed to give to family,is as important to the need of love, from the family. A thought...
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On 2012-07-08 14:57, Dr Spektor wrote:
So, can any of you fathom why people would commit suicide when they have a family - example beyond my friends who have done it - a neighbour down the street hung herself in the basement while her 4 year old son was watching tv and her husband was out.

In certain mind states- death beats the alternative of life - even with family.

I'm working on effects to help people understand - so, just wanted to start a discussion to help hone some anticipated dialogue

I think often it's hard for people to reach out to those contemplating the end because it's so alien to their current way of thinking.

IMHO


An unappreciated knowledge of options...

Easy for some.
Fatal for others.

Why the difference?
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My #4 is "parties that never end,and Twins"!
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On 2012-07-08 14:57, Dr Spektor wrote:
So, can any of you fathom why people would commit suicide when they have a family - example beyond my friends who have done it - a neighbour down the street hung herself in the basement while her 4 year old son was watching tv and her husband was out.

In certain mind states- death beats the alternative of life - even with family.

I'm working on effects to help people understand - so, just wanted to start a discussion to help hone some anticipated dialogue

I think often it's hard for people to reach out to those contemplating the end because it's so alien to their current way of thinking.

IMHO


Firstly there are too many options for me to just name 3 worth living for.

Secondly for anyone to end their life or want/contemplate to end it, they have to be in a deep state of depression (could be other negative altered state as well, but I think depression is most common). And speaking as someone who suffered such a state in the past (many years ago now), I can't recall any realisation/revelation that would pull someone out of such a place easily or quickly. I think the key elements to escape such a state (and is much harder for some than others) are family or friends who try to prove to the person that their life is not just about them, even if they can't see that themselves; for them to accept that they need help (in spite of maybe not caring whether they get it) and lastly medication.

I think of depression as a manifested evil force and have a routine myself (unfinished) which examines this state of mind as such. The struggle out of the pit of depression in some ways is similar to an addict trying to escape drugs or alcohol. It hits me very hard when any person takes their own life because they can't see any hope and just opts out. Any work done in this area is very important in my opinion. I'd be very interested to be kept updated on the progress of your project Bruce as it's a topic close to my heart.

These are just my opinions of course and things that were effective for me. I escaped depression 12+ years ago had have never since gone back to that abyss. I think any kind of mental illness is still somewhat taboo to discuss even in this day and age as it makes people uncomfortable and this is part of the problem. I commend people like Bruce who work in bringing about more understanding in this area.
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Interesting.

I don't have much experience with suicide. I have a friend who's father killed himself when he was a young boy, but that's as close to it as I've ever come.

I have lost friends and family through illness though and its seeing their fight for life that makes me quite angry with those considering suicide. My friends and family who have died did not want to leave their loved ones behind, but leave them they have. Through no choice of their own. To actively make that choice though sickens me somewhat.

Personally I've always viewed suicide as a very selfish act, with the exception of laying down one's life to save children or other loved ones. I don't think there are many parents that wouldn't end their lives in order to save their kids. But that's a little different.

I always feel sorry for the families of those who have lost someone through suicide. I don't think I could forgive any of my friends or family for doing it. In fact I would be more likely to forgive murder of a loved one far quicker than I would suicide.

Maybe those who have experience with this more than I do will feel differently. But as an outsider looking in I am blind to the individual and can only see the young children, husband, wife, mother, father... etc... that get left behind to literally pick up the pieces.

I would never hurt my wife intentionally. I love her and want to protect her. To kill myself would hurt her more than anything else I could ever do. Why would I do that? In short I wouldn't.

Suicide makes me question the feelings of those that do it have for those they leave behind.

But as I say, thankfully I have not had to deal with being one of those left behind.
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While I would love to say: Sex, Drugs and Rock and Roll.... or perhaps: Me, myself and I.

My actual response, (to a very good question btw) is: Love,Learn and Teach.

Also for your consideration, from me to you, by way of Jeff McBride quoting (unknown): "The past is history, the future a mystery, the gift is now. That's why its called the present."

Cheers!
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On 2012-07-08 14:57, Dr Spektor wrote:
So, can any of you fathom why people would commit suicide when they have a family - example beyond my friends who have done it - a neighbour down the street hung herself in the basement while her 4 year old son was watching tv and her husband was out.

In certain mind states- death beats the alternative of life - even with family.

I'm working on effects to help people understand - so, just wanted to start a discussion to help hone some anticipated dialogue

I think often it's hard for people to reach out to those contemplating the end because it's so alien to their current way of thinking.

IMHO


Anhedonia is one possibility. If depression is deep enough then the people and things we love just may not be enough of a distraction.

Years ago, I used to say that if I can just live long enough to see the Star Wars prequels. But then Episode I came out.
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I'm thinking...I'M THINKING!

I thought there was a reason but it escapes me now.
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1) My Father above brings me blessings every day
2) My family
3) To make a difference to others



4) And for selfish reasons to tag history and hope the graffiti stays up for at least a few generations. (This also ties into #3)
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