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Woland Special user 680 Posts |
Thanks, rowdymagi5.
An interesting point from the first article you linked: Quote:
Check out the 20th century temperature record, and you will find that its up and down pattern does not follow the industrial revolution’s upward march of atmospheric carbon dioxide (CO2), which is the supposed central culprit for man caused global warming (and has been much, much higher in the past). It follows instead the up and down pattern of naturally caused climate cycles. That's a very interesting point. The Yahoo article, however, enthusiastically endorses the anthropogenic global warming theory and agenda. |
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balducci Loyal user Canada 227 Posts |
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On 2012-07-18 06:14, rowdymagi5 wrote: "That is one of the most interesting conclusions to come out of the seventh International Climate Change Conference sponsored by the Heartland Institute" The Heartland Institute? Oh yeah, these guys: http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/20......e-donors The Heartland Institute was cut off by three more corporate donors on Monday, further isolating the ultra-conservative thinktank from the mainstream business world. The defections reinforce the sense of Heartland's isolation, ahead of its major climate contrarian conference in Chicago next week. A number of prominent speakers also pulled out of the conference after Heartland put up a billboard on a Chicago expressway suggesting believers in climate change were akin to serial killers. In statements to advocacy groups, pharmaceutical giant Eli Llily, BB&T bank and PepsiCo confirmed they would not fund Heartland in 2012 – dealing a blow to the thinktank's plans of building long-term relationships with major corporations. The three were the latest in a rush of companies to distance themselves from Heartland after the ad campaign featuring Unabomber Ted Kaczynski. http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/20......aff-cash As the latest Heartland climate conference opens in a Chicago hotel on Monday, the thinktank's claims to reasoned debate lie in shreds and its financial future remains uncertain. Heartland's claims to "stay above the fray" of the climate wars was exploded by a billboard campaign earlier this month comparing climate change believers to the Unabomer Ted Kaczynski, and a document sting last February that revealed a plan to spread doubt among kindergarteners (!) on the existence of climate change. Along with the damage to its reputation, Heartland's financial future is also threatened by an exodus of corporate donors as well as key members of staff. The organisation has been forced to make up those funds by taking its first publicly acknowledged donations from the coal industry. The main Illinois coal lobby is a last-minute sponsor of this week's conference, undermining Heartland's claims to operate independently of fossil fuel interests. Its entire Washington DC office, barring one staffer, decamped, taking Heartland's biggest project, involving the insurance industry, with them. Board directors quit, conference speakers cancelled at short-notice, and associates of long standing demanded Heartland remove their names from its website. The list of conference sponsors shrank by nearly half from 2010, and many of those listed sponsors are just websites operating on the rightwing fringe. "It's haemorrhaging," said Kert Davies, research director of Greenpeace, who has spent years tracking climate contrarian outfits. "Heartland's true colours finally came through, and now people are jumping ship in quick order."
Make America Great Again! - Trump in 2020 ... "We're a capitalistic society. I go into business, I don't make it, I go bankrupt. They're not going to bail me out. I've been on welfare and food stamps. Did anyone help me? No." - Craig T. Nelson, actor.
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mastermindreader 1949 - 2017 Seattle, WA 12586 Posts |
It's ironic to look at the misinformation that the fossil fuel industry-supported Heartland Institute comes out with regularly, and then to see posts referring to the so-called "agenda" of those who simply recognize the reality of AGW.
Is Heartland still using the same researchers they used back when they were producing "scientific evidence" that there was no correlation between tobacco use and lung cancer? |
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Octopus Sun Special user Wiggle Wiggle 586 Posts |
I remember this stuff from the 70's.
The scientist said that we would go into a serious global warming effect, and then between 2012 - 2020 or so global cooling would start a reversal to a new ice age. Global warming and sudden ice age is an archaeological fact. It taught in several 500 level archaeology classes I studied. we'll see soon. I can wait argue on |
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mastermindreader 1949 - 2017 Seattle, WA 12586 Posts |
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Ice age predicted in the 70's? As we show below, not really. We came out of the last ice age 15,000 years ago. Typically we would go back into an ice age as that is the natural cycle. The industrial imposed climate forcing is so large that we can not at this level of forcing, return to an ice age. http://ossfoundation.us/projects/environ......-cooling |
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Woland Special user 680 Posts |
It's cold and wet in England, anyway, according to the Met Office:
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Provisional Met Office figures for June show double the average amount of rain has fallen, making it the wettest June since records began in 1910. |
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tommy Eternal Order Devil's Island 16544 Posts |
They will be telling us cooling is warming next.
Cue Al and Greenies
If there is a single truth about Magic, it is that nothing on earth so efficiently evades it.
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mastermindreader 1949 - 2017 Seattle, WA 12586 Posts |
There is no cooling, tommy. It's a myth perpetuated for political and financial reasons by the Heartland Institute and their corporate sponsors.
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tommy Eternal Order Devil's Island 16544 Posts |
Hopefully.
Have you ever been to Finland, where its so cold it makes you want to cry and when you do the tears freeze to your face. It does seem though that the cold is good for the skin as the women there have a beautiful complextion but I prefer warmer climes myself even so.
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Pop Haydn Inner circle Los Angeles 3691 Posts |
Meanwhile, last night a chunk of ice twice the size of Manhattan calved into the ocean from Greenland's biggest glacier...
Last year, it lost a single iceberg 4 times the size of Manhattan. Global warming has been suggested as a cause... |
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tommy Eternal Order Devil's Island 16544 Posts |
Don't worry, if you put ice in a glass, fill it with water the level will not rise when the ice melts. So what's your problem?
And why is Bob wearing them shades?
If there is a single truth about Magic, it is that nothing on earth so efficiently evades it.
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21219 Posts |
Everyone run scared the sky is falling. Oh and give us all your money.
What Octopus Sun said.
Danny Doyle
<BR>Semper Occultus <BR>In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act....George Orwell |
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MagicSanta Inner circle Northern Nevada 5841 Posts |
I solved the issue of warming! I am wearing my undies with a fan on. Let's all get a fan and in our undies and see if we cool down. Also get a high and tight haircut. Let us know your results.
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Al Angello Eternal Order Collegeville, Pa. USA 11045 Posts |
Global warming is caused by an alien invasion and the aliens are here to eat us all.
Al Angello The Comic Juggler/Magician
http://www.juggleral.com http://home.comcast.net/~juggleral/ "Footprints on your ceiling are almost gone" |
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MagicSanta Inner circle Northern Nevada 5841 Posts |
How big is Manhatten? I mean if it is the size of a football field then no biggie if it is a mile square that is another.
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Al Angello Eternal Order Collegeville, Pa. USA 11045 Posts |
With 8,000,000 residents Manhattan is the same size as an Olympic swimming pool.
Al Angello The Comic Juggler/Magician
http://www.juggleral.com http://home.comcast.net/~juggleral/ "Footprints on your ceiling are almost gone" |
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tommy Eternal Order Devil's Island 16544 Posts |
So long as its not as thick as the believers we have nothing to fear.
If there is a single truth about Magic, it is that nothing on earth so efficiently evades it.
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21219 Posts |
Again I ask for proposed solutions. No more hype. What do we do? What will doing it cost? What will the direct benefit be? Oh and how do we enforce compliance worldwide?
If these very basic questions can't even be answered or none of those saying it is happening even take a stab at them, why argue? They are pretty straight forward. Why not take a shot at them? Lets move to solutions to advance the ball.
Danny Doyle
<BR>Semper Occultus <BR>In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act....George Orwell |
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21219 Posts |
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On 2012-07-18 13:21, Pop Haydn wrote: Suggested by whom, on what basis? Has this ever happened prior to mans proliferation of evil machines on the planet?
Danny Doyle
<BR>Semper Occultus <BR>In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act....George Orwell |
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