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karsten9400
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Hey
Anyone who knows were I can watch a full stage show on video?
I will go from close-up to stage, and I need to se how a stageshow is from beginning to end Smile
it does not matter if it's a small show or large stage show...

Thanks
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Karsten - Atta guy. This is a great way to get the feel for how a stage act can flow together instead of simply buying a bunch of props and tossing them into any old order. There are a few good places you can look including any of the Copperfield specials. Pay special attention to the emotion of each piece and how they structure moving in and out of faster or slower pieces. Also note the consistency in the look of their sets, props and costumes. Everything is very cohesive to suggests a complete show, not just an evening of separate acts.

I've always found that Cirque Du Soleil puts their programs together brilliantly. Their shows are very dynamic with plenty of peaks and valleys as you move between slower artistic pieces, funny clown acts and dramatic or dangerous acts. The "show" category in their store has all of the DVD's. http://eboutique.cirquedusoleil.com/Brow......talog%29

If you truly know who YOU are on stage, everything else can flow from your character. Look at Sylvester the Jester as an example. Absolutely everything stems from the character outward through to his music, sets etc.

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karsten9400
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Hey again,
Thanks Chris,
Sylvester the Jester looks funny, and great composed show, but the atitude is not me Smile
Im more like Copperfield in my performens, in the atitude, and tricks (but not all the big stuff)
Do you know where I kan see videos, with full performances like him, that is not necessary that's him in the video..
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David Copperfield was on television, if you know of other television magicians, then their videos may be out there some place.

The best way to get to see full acts or evening shows is to attend magic conventions. These are live events and are very educational from the standpoint of seeing how other magicians assemble their acts. So save your money and attend a magic convention.

Most magicians do not like to sell videos of their shows because all it does is make it possible for others to copy what they present.

Another way is to save your money and go to places like Bronson, MO where they have several magicians that do magic shows in that town. Las Vegas, Atlantic City, Miami, all have magic shows running at one time or another.

Some magicians own their own theater, and when near or in resort cities and towns perform seasonal magic shows as well.
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Regardless of what your character is, you can learn a lot from sources such as Chris mentioned. If your personality is "more like" David Copperfield, you would probably be better off not watching his performances, to allow you the freedom to develop your own persona. Watch videos of mimes, musicals, plays, and whatever else you can put your hands on. Read books about unusual subjects. Even movies are a good source of information for developing a story line.
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Hi Karsten! Welcome to the Café!

Having worked the David Copperfield Show for three years in a row as a stagehand, I really feel compelled to recommend this:

Get a part-time gig as a stagehand in a performing arts center or theater. Even though most of the shows I worked had nothing to do with magic, I learned a TON! Striking and spiking props, upstage/downstage positioning, the blocking and flagging of lights, sound reinforcement, etc.

Do everything you can in that job! Stage presence is really important. It can make or break your performance! Knowing how to position yourself for stage is TOTALLY different than close-up! You have to be "bigger than life", exude a confidence and stature above normal. It ain't easy!

Don't do what I did, and stumble up on stage to do a few tricks. I failed miserably trying that. Try getting a job as a stagehand. That is the most valuable advice I can give.

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I don't know how old you are but along with Dougini I would say take theatre classes. I've done magic since the age of 4 and it's helped tremendously for more than just acting but staging and everything else like Dougini said. If you are too old then audition for plays in community theatre and help backstage as well. Now I know Hans Klok has a full show (if I'm not mistaken) on youtube. Go watch live theatre as well because this gives you a chance to see the good the bad and the ugly.
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Watch David Copperfield shows. Smile
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Doug -
I agree with you. Theater experience is invaluable. I was involved in theater in high school and college. You can use basic concepts of stage blocking to really enhance your show and make you a better performer. I suggest taking mime classes. Watch Jeff McBride - he is a master of pantomime.
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Great advice man thanks
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On 2012-07-21 12:18, Dougini wrote:
Hi Karsten! Welcome to the Caf�!

Having worked the David Copperfield Show for three years in a row as a stagehand, I really feel compelled to recommend this:

Get a part-time gig as a stagehand in a performing arts center or theater. Even though most of the shows I worked had nothing to do with magic, I learned a TON! Striking and spiking props, upstage/downstage positioning, the blocking and flagging of lights, sound reinforcement, etc.

Do everything you can in that job! Stage presence is really important. It can make or break your performance! Knowing how to position yourself for stage is TOTALLY different than close-up! You have to be "bigger than life", exude a confidence and stature above normal. It ain't easy!

Don't do what I did, and stumble up on stage to do a few tricks. I failed miserably trying that. Try getting a job as a stagehand. That is the most valuable advice I can give.

Doug
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On 2012-07-31 09:40, chami79 wrote:
Great advice man thanks


My pleasure Chami! Welcome to the Café! Smile
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The problem with watching specific magicians is you become or act like them. AS you stated, you are not like Sylvestor, but more like Copperfield. My first suggestion is DO NOT watch Copperfield videos as you are to intent on becoming like him. Unfortunately there are way to many out there trying to be like him. Be yourself, find your own personality and style. The best suggestion was to become a stagehand or assistant in a show. I assisted for 3 years at an amusement park till I finally got my shot. Best 3 years of my life.

If you must watch videos to find out who you are, watch a variety...dont just pick one guy (copperfield) as you will undoubtedly mimick him. Watch as many different magicians as you can find. Shows like worlds greatest magic is a good start as its a talent show of variety of performers. I also like watching performers from other countries...Liu Chen being a god in my book. I cant understand them, therefore am forced to only watch the magic performance. No chance of copying or mimicking his words or speech due to not understanding his language. I remember the days Id see Copperfield wannabes trying to use his dialogue, and even trying to copy his voice....99% of those performers are working full time 9-5 jobs now.

1st sugggestion...Go to amusement parks with live shows.
2nd...Doug Henning videos. You wont want to become him, but will learn all about illusion performance and technique.
3rd...Worlds greatest magic specials. Variety of styles.
4th...At least one big convention with performances.
5th...DO NOT SIT AND WATCH Copperfield VIDEOS...unless you are looking for a 9-5 job!
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On 2012-07-31 12:44, videokideo wrote:
The problem with watching specific magicians is you become or act like them. AS you stated, you are not like Sylvestor, but more like Copperfield. My first suggestion is DO NOT watch Copperfield videos as you are to intent on becoming like him. Unfortunately there are way to many out there trying to be like him. Be yourself, find your own personality and style. The best suggestion was to become a stagehand or assistant in a show. I assisted for 3 years at an amusement park till I finally got my shot. Best 3 years of my life.

If you must watch videos to find out who you are, watch a variety...dont just pick one guy (copperfield) as you will undoubtedly mimick him. Watch as many different magicians as you can find. Shows like worlds greatest magic is a good start as its a talent show of variety of performers. I also like watching performers from other countries...Liu Chen being a god in my book. I cant understand them, therefore am forced to only watch the magic performance. No chance of copying or mimicking his words or speech due to not understanding his language. I remember the days Id see Copperfield wannabes trying to use his dialogue, and even trying to copy his voice....99% of those performers are working full time 9-5 jobs now.

1st sugggestion...Go to amusement parks with live shows.
2nd...Doug Henning videos. You wont want to become him, but will learn all about illusion performance and technique.
3rd...Worlds greatest magic specials. Variety of styles.
4th...At least one big convention with performances.
5th...DO NOT SIT AND WATCH Copperfield VIDEOS...unless you are looking for a 9-5 job!


Certainly don't copy him.

Be yourself, but learn from a Master.

Of course, I should have said this...

Watch David Copperfield, Houdini, Lance Burton, Siegfried and Roy, Doug Henning, Jeff McBride, Derren Brown, Sylvester the Jester etc.

Smile
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