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Ekuth
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It can be used for the floating rose, yes.

But, you found the persian flaw; you would need to carry spare spools with you.
Which, you're going to be doing anyway.

Just swap out a fresh spool and you're good to go.

Finding the end when the thread breaks *can* be a... PITA. About 50% of the time, I have to cut the old thread off and re-spool.
I put this down to what I mentioned before: Poor spool design.

Half the time I find that the thread has wrapped itself around the BASE of the spool, instead of where it should be.

To remedy this, I have taken an exacto blade and carefully trimmed the top of the base to form a cone... like the top part. This prevents the thread from tangling around the base so readily.

Still, this is a stop-gap measure to overcome the poor design of the spool. I am working on creating a more efficient, tangle free spool.
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HI Ekuth,

After reading this thread I have dug out my original pen which I have never really tried to master. There was no DVD with this just the floating bill effect. Do you know if there is any resource or routines available when using the pen and where can they be found.

Barry
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Hi Ekuth thanks for the review do you have a link to the full fix for the spider pen pro thank you
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Thank you very much for the reviews and great details. I have one question for an effect I'm dreaming to perform. Can this be done with a playing card while the deck is on the floor and the card levitates and floats up to you and you can stand back few steps while the card is floating ? Thanks and hope you all enjoy and fry laymen's mind with this beautiful product Smile Smile !
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If you can think it, you can do it. Your main trouble with that effect is going to be attachment to the (I'm assuming) selected card. I'll let you percolate on that, as I've been working on a very similar effect since I got my SPP.

As far as the link to the fix... Ugh... it's somewhere here on the forums... under "Latest and Greatest" I think.

As to resources... your imagination, and any book or effect that uses IT! The DVD really does not teach many effects at all, the sole one really being the 'Zero G" bill. Which is clever, and so stunningly obvious you'll smack yourself in your head when you learn it. You also don't need an SPP to perform it, either.
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Did anyone here experience the same problem as me? The tension on the thread is not consistent. Even after some 50cm, the tension becomes so hard that the thread breaks. I removed the cap, and noticed that the spool is not winding up perfectly centrifugal, but slightly off-axis. Therefore the pen itself vibrates and the thread is whobbly. Sorry for my strange engish, but it's difficult to explain.

Does anyone experience the same thing?

Thanks!

ps: ofcourse I did not lock the thread
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You need to unspool virtually all the thread on the spool and then slowly let the pen re-spool itself, guiding the IT through your fingers.
This will stop about 90% of the breakage caused by snags.

If that doesn't help, from your description, I'd say that you either have a defective spool, or the 'X' on the bottom has loosened up. Pinch the bottom shut again, or take a bit of wax/blue tac and work it into the 'X' to give the motor spindle some traction.

One of two poorly engineered parts of the pen is the spool. The other is the absolutely worthless 'pen' part, which is made of plastic, attaches using plastic threads... ugh. WHEN will manufacturers learn that PLASTIC DOES NOT MAKE GOOD MATERIAL TO BE THREADED?

I ended up simply removing the entire bottom 'pen' section of my SPP.

I'm still toying with a better spool design; because let's face it, the one it comes with is crap. But then I suppose the thinking was not "hey, let's make a reliable spool that can carry 60' of line and be easily re-spooled"... but "let's give them the same POS that breaks and needs to be replaced, thereby pumping up accessory sales..."
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Hi Ekuth,

Thank you for your very clear explanation...After trying your hints I came to the conclusion that my spool must be defective and will try a new one.
I'll keep everybody here updated in case someone encounters the same problem.

Thanks for your help!
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I too have just dug out my old pen and wondered what was the difference with the upgrade.
Am I right in thinking that the battery is better and the tension is better?
Basically is it worth buying another as it seems that it's pot-luck as to whether you get one that performs as it shoud?
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Magicmonk;

I never owned an original SP, but from what I understand the SPP beats it hollow in terms of battery life and ease of use. The main thing about the SPP is the constantly adjusting line tension (other than the 30 second timer when the motor turns off and the line slackens- but this is easily dealt with my keeping the motor in active mode by moving around a bit- it doesn't take much) and the motor is actually quite strong.

Unlike the Terriblerantula, one AAA in the SPP will actually last months at a time. I've swapped batteries 3 times since initial purpose; and it's easy to tell when you need to because the retract begins to slow down.

The only real beef I have with the product is the 'pen' part, which is worthless as the threads are made of plastic, not metal as the rest of the pen is, so you end up removing it or gluing it in place. I went for the removal option, because it lives in my shirt pocket anyway and the audience never sees it. The other complaint I have is the spool design; it's just not very well engineered and the thread has a tendency to wrap down around the bottom of the spool rather than in the middle as it should. The technique Yigal shows on the DVD for re-threading is utterly worthless, IMO. I've hand carved several new spool prototypes and I'm closing in on a new design that will eliminate these flaws- but the darn things are SO small it's very delicate work.

As far as the mechanical issues you're worried about, those were only really previlant on the initial release of the SPP; most outlets are aware of the issues now and have already fixed them or bought new stock which doesn't seem as prone. On the off chance you do get a bum pen, I've got a comprehensive thread on how to fix the issues on the forums here, and I'm always happy to answer questions via PM.

In my opinion, even with the flaws it does have, it's one of the best pieces of kit I've ever purchased. I'm seriously debating buying a second one for backup- but I'm also eyeing Sean Begunia's DeckTR. I'd love to review one, but right now the $350 price tag is a bit steep for me. Plus, DeckTR is more for stage level than close up.

On the whole, I'd say go for it and make the upgrade if you can afford it. It's a brilliant tool and you can do SO much with it.
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Thanks for the indepth review Ekuth. As I sit here, any moment now my SPP will arrive in the post. I am a beginner, but a very patiant person. Looking forward to watching the DVD. Now if only the mail man will hurry up. Smile
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Mail man has just dropped by a package, I opened it and Magic. Just what I been waiting for. My new SPP, Now to watch the video.

I hope mine works with no modifications. I promise I will not touch the Pen till I have watched the whole DVD.
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Watched the video, about to watch it again, I only have Energizer Advanced AAA battery, Will this battery work with the SPP or should I purchase the standard Energizer or Duracell Battery?
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Does anyone use it for PK touches? Thanks
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Has interest for the Spider Pen Pro dimished? I guess it's been out for a while now, I have not inserted the battery in my SPP thus far, still not sure if I can use a Energizer Advanced AAA battery, will not be in town till tomorrow. Will grab a battery tomorrow. Meanwhile I will keep watching videos online.
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Sorry, been out of town... you can use any AAA battery. I use Energizer Rechargeables, myself.
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Thanks, I just tried the pen now, It works great. I had to squeeze the chamber slightly as shown in DVD to get it to work. The Wax was not wrapped around the line on mine, I pulled the wax out and the line came out. I placed the wax back on as shown in DVD and all working fine now, Managed to do a quick magic trick and floated a note with success. That line sure is invisible, but I notice in certain light angles it does stand out, so I will have to be aware of that.
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I am loving this Spider Pen Pro. I've been practising for the past few days, Not to long, A few minutes here and there a few times a day. To be honest, I'm finding it a lot easier than expected, it really does work that great. Only problem I have is with our Australian Notes, Our Notes here in Australia are made from some sort of a plastic, I am not having any luck with our notes.

Is anyone out there using Plastic notes, with any success?
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Hi,

I just got mine, watched the video and tried it out. I love the way it works. I have a concern. When I use it the oen feels pretty hot. Is that normal or would you say I have a defective unit. Thanks for your help!

Jay
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I would say you have a problem unit. Mine hasn't gotten hot.
My ex-cat was named "Muffin". "Vomit" would be a better name for her. AKA "The Evil Ball of Fur".
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