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DJ Trix
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Hello everyone,

I am really starting to get a nice act together and I learned somewere about the glass production from the pit (if you will).

I have never read it in a book and can't find any books explaining the method to do it. If anyone knows which book has this somewhere inside (in or out of print) could you please let me know. Also, if there is any productions of glasses from a holder inside the coat that you know of in a book of video it would also help me out (and where I can buy the holders also).

Pretty much any good production of a glass of liquid that you all know of and would like to share would help me out, honestly I can't find any information.


Thanks guys,

DJ
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Don't know if this will help but Shimada has and explains a production of a "glass of liquid", in his videos with the doves.
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Eugene Burger has a shot glass production called 'Surprise Shot'. Although it's only a shotglass, you might be able to make a gimmick for a champagne glass.

Just an idea...
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Thanks roy and kevin,

the Shimada video you speak of is actually the video with his card fan productions, cigarette and billiard balls, but it is also only a shot glass... kevin, thanks for that, how clean is the production? is a silk used?

thanks guys,

DJ
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Hi DJ:

I remember seeing a glass production in the Richard Kaufman book, "The New Magic of Japan". It looked very good. I believe the book is still available from him.

Also, Mikame makes a holder that fits in the wasteband of your trousers. I remember seeing it advertised at http://www.stevensmagic.com a little while ago.

Ron
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Thanks so much Ron,


I seen the gimmick from stevens magic, and I will check out the book...

DJ
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The glass production using the “pit” as a hold-out can be found in Bruce Elliott’s “Classic Secrets of Magic”. I also believe that it is found in Mark Wilson’s “Complete Course in Magic”. It is the first technique I learned and I have used this method in parlor and platform (small venue) shows.

Mikame makes a very simple gimmick that holds a glass under the coat.

I have built and used a couple of different holdouts over the years. The first was simply a “suction cup” from a craft store. It was hung from a length of string and pinned inside my coat. The suction cup was stuck to the bottom of the glass (plastic wrap and rubber bands made the cover) and worked like a pendulum. Lean forward and the glass was delivered to the waiting hand. The second holdout was simply a length of coat hanger wire that was bent into a “U” then the double strands of the “U” bent into a “S”. It simply hooked to my belt with the base of the wine glass held between the arms of the “U”. Both were simple to make and use.

Finally, I have produced a glass by just sticking it upright in my belt and stolen it under the cover of a hank (Bob Read style).
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Harry, you are the man!!!

Thank you soo much buddy, I hope you pop back in here again because I have a question for you. when producing the classical way to me it would seem you couldn't take a drink from the glass because of the bottom of it. Do any books describe a method of ditching that in the hank or somewhere else? I somewhat came up with a method using some adhesive but I don't think it will work too well...

Thanks again all,

DJ
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The "pit" method is indeed in the Mark Wilson course. regardless of the steal, the real gem in the Wilson instruction is the raising up of the glass under the hank from the flat palm for the reveal. Very magical looking!
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There should be absolutely no problem drinking the beverage from the produced glass. I understand your concern about the BA principle mask that is recommended to hide the glass bottom while it is being carried in the “pit”.

First, you can simply turn to one side to drink so that the audience does not see the bottom of the glass (or the BA mask).

Further, if you are producing it from a handkerchief, and then have the glass sitting on the hank in your hand and the hank will mask the bottom as you drink.

Or you could use a sort of wine tasting hold. That is, have the glass-sitting flat on your fingertips with the thumb on top of the stem base. Sort of a modified “pinch”. The fingers will hide the bottom.

Finally, you could steal the gizmo from the bottom by sticking it on with a bit of wax or lo-tack glue.

Frankly there is no reason to treat the bottom of the glass with anything even using the “pit” method. Simply pull a fold of coat (and coat sleeve) over the glass. Spray the bottom of the glass with Testors “dull coat” to eliminate any accidental flash. It will pass unnoticed after the glass has been produced.
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When I waited tables I used the Mark Wilson method in a room full of mirrors with an untreated glass. I found that when I came from the kitchen with a colorful hankerchief waving between my hands there was no need for masking. I did my waves high from the begining and was pleased to recieve many gasps (and good tips;)
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The Eugene Burger production is of a shot glass, from a paper bag previously shown empty. Think It's on the Gourmet Close-Up video.
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Several months ago I was in the market for a similar item for a different application. I searched high and low and read all the material I could find and settled on an item available from Steven's Magic Emporium.

Check this out...it is fantastic... Liquid Load

Good luck!
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Sounds good,

can you use your own Glass?
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Another good tip is to attache flat black velvet or felt to the bottom of the glass so that it mataches the color of the cloth material that the glass will be produced from.
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Once you know the dimensions of the glass you can use one of similar size. You have to see the gimmick to appreciate the glass and know what will fit and not fit.
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DJ,

The Magic of Michael Ammar describes a wine glass production from a clouth without a gimmick.

Also, Pat Page describes a method of producing a glass by having it under the arm when you walk out, the bottom covered with material matching your black coat, and then producing it from a hank. I'm not sure how practical that is and it has to be an opening effect.

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Have a look at this link at All Magic.com. It´s called "Liquid Surprise":

http://allmagic.com/magicshow/infantino/liquidsurprise.html

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I used to use the Stack of Glasses production from John Booth's great book... Marvels of Mystery.

This book is almost ALL a stand up performer needs. It amazes me how much practical material there is in this book.

The effect is, after producing a number of silk handkerchiefs (I had calling them just "silks") you step forward and produce about six, stacked, glasses filled with liquid.

There is NO covers needed, and the whole setup can be made for almost NO COST.

Believe me, for the platform or parlour worker this is a MIRACLE. Smile
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Pete,

Is the method something like the version in Tarbell? Can I wear jeans and still do this effect?

Thanks,

DJ
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