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Steve_Mollett
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Therefore, we need to get rid of stop signs, lights and traffic laws. I LOVE LOUD NOISES! Smile
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We need more stop signs because people think if there is none they can pile into the street without looking. Over powere cars, guys who don't realize bad guys will take your extended clip and atick it in your behind, guys who don't treat women with respect...bunch of wussies. While at it stop giving press to these idiots, they think they are famous. Call them 'the dip ****' or something.
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Locks are for honest people.
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On 2012-08-07 21:15, Woland wrote:
Locks are for honest people.

I must be a regular "Abe Lincoln"; I have entire suitcases full of locks...handcuffs, too!
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On 2012-08-07 10:32, Slide wrote:
Time for a Cheryl Wheeler Song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_S5CabGWsv4

If it were Up To Me:

Maybe it's the movies, maybe it's the books
Maybe it's the bullets, maybe it's the real crooks
Maybe it's the drugs, maybe it's the parents
Maybe it's the colors everybody's wearin
Maybe it's the President, maybe it's the last one
Maybe it's the one before that, what he done
Maybe it's the high schools, maybe it's the teachers
Maybe it's the tattooed children in the bleachers
Maybe it's the Bible, maybe it's the lack
Maybe it's the music, maybe it's the crack
Maybe it's the hairdos, maybe it's the TV
Maybe it's the cigarettes, maybe it's the family
Maybe it's the fast food, maybe it's the news
Maybe it's divorce, maybe it's abuse
Maybe it's the lawyers, maybe it's the prisons
Maybe it's the Senators, maybe it's the system
Maybe it's the fathers, maybe it's the sons
Maybe it's the sisters, maybe it's the moms
Maybe it's the radio, maybe it's road rage
Maybe El Nino, or UV rays
Maybe it's the army, maybe it's the liquor
Maybe it's the papers, maybe the militia
Maybe it's the athletes, maybe it's the ads
Maybe it's the sports fans, maybe it's a fad
Maybe it's the magazines, maybe it's the internet
Maybe it's the lottery, maybe it's the immigrants
Maybe it's taxes, big business
Maybe it's the KKK and the skinheads
Maybe it's the communists, maybe it's the Catholics
Maybe it's the hippies, maybe it's the addicts
Maybe it's the art, maybe it's the sex
Maybe it's the homeless, maybe it's the banks
Maybe it's the clearcut, maybe it's the ozone
Maybe it's the chemicals, maybe it's the car phones
Maybe it's the fertilizer, maybe it's the nose rings
Maybe it's the end, but I know one thing.
If it were up to me, I'd take away the guns.



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On 2012-08-06 17:00, Slide wrote:
We could blame tv, movies, permissive culture....or we could just get rid of the guns.


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On 2012-07-27 16:07, mastermindreader wrote:
I don't think anyone here is arguing that firearms should be banned


How about now?
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley.

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Yep. Looks like there's at least one now.
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If Obama puts him on the Supreme Court, it's on you.
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley.

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On 2012-08-07 03:09, mastermindreader wrote:
Interesting, Andy. You're saying that hitting children is a good way of showing them that violence is not acceptable?


Yes, I know it sounds ridiculous, but there is a difference between hitting your child as means to scold them, and beating a child to scold them. There is a difference between a spanking and flat out abuse. There is more to parenting than spanking. And a spanking should only be used in as a last resort to punishment. Time outs, grounding, standing in a corner, sitting down and having a talk, are all to be used before you spank a child. As I mentioned before I may have only had 4 or 5 spankings my entire life, but they were all for good reason.

Punishment is just negative reinforcement. I am trying to remember back to my college days in Psych class, The name Skinner comes to mind, but I could be wrong. But as negative reinforcement is used to punish your child, positive reinforcement should be used to reward good behavior.

A strict moral upbringing, about violence and the difference between reality and fantasy is also needed. Kids need to not only know but understand that if you Stab, shoot, beat, or blow someone up in real life, they will not re-spawn 30 seconds later. (I am not sure if those fools in the Xbox argument understood this)
I am not a parent, I have no kids of my own, but I do have 5 nieces and nephews. 2 in which my girlfriend and I babysit 5 days a week. I know things are different when it is your own kids.

I am not arguing that any of this is the best way to raise your kids. I’m stating how I was raised, and it worked for me. I know how some other people my age were raised, and a lot turned out better, and a lot turned out worse.

then again what do I know, I am a 24 year old without children of his own....
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On 2012-08-07 03:09, mastermindreader wrote:
Interesting, Andy. You're saying that hitting children is a good way of showing them that violence is not acceptable?


I'm ok with putting kidnappers in prison.
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley.

"...as we reason and love, we are able to hope. And hope enables us to resist those things that would enslave us."
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On 2012-08-08 10:47, LobowolfXXX wrote:
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On 2012-08-07 03:09, mastermindreader wrote:
Interesting, Andy. You're saying that hitting children is a good way of showing them that violence is not acceptable?


I'm ok with putting kidnappers in prison.


LOL. But I don't think the kids we're talking about are convicted criminals. Smile
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On 2012-08-07 16:46, EsnRedshirt wrote:
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On 2012-08-06 13:02, Woland wrote:
Hi Andy,

All the laws on the books won't stop a man intent on killing from carrying whatever weapon he chooses anywhere he decides to go.

Woland, since people are killed in traffic accidents every day, why do we bother having stop lights?

Good question. In England traffic circle are more pervasive than stop lights. Less costly and far fewer deadly accidents.
Bob
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"Hey kids, look! There's Big Ben! There's the Parlament!... There's Big Ben! There's the Parlament!... There's Big Ben. There's the Parlament..."

Kidding, actually. I've been to both London and Ireland, and once I got used to the roundabouts, wondered why we didn't see more of them in the US. I've been noticing them when they appear, and they seem to be appearing more and more. They are safer, since there's less cross traffic.

Of course, my original point is highlighting the flaw in the "well we can't stop it, so why even try" argument.
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On 2012-08-08 14:00, EsnRedshirt wrote:
Of course, my original point is highlighting the flaw in the "well we can't stop it, so why even try" argument.

Yes, and I hope you got my point as to why the above argument may be based on a frame of reference that has by design been too narrowly defined.
Bob
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