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Blackwell33 New user Ft. Huachuca, Az 11 Posts |
Hey guys.. I'm wanting to start learning some mentalist effects. Just assume that I'm a total beginner and have no background in mentalism. Where do I start? What vids or dvd's do you recommend? Thanks a lot..
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mike stevenson Loyal user 276 Posts |
Max Maven's Videomind series is very good. Strong effects which can are not too demanding, but obviously require the right presentation to be effective. I would personally recommend you initially get Karl Fulves self-working mental magic and see whether mentalism is right for you. Then you can think about essential texts such as Practical Mental Effects and 13 Steps.
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thk5353 Regular user Northern New Jersey 183 Posts |
Hmmmm Mind Mysteries DVD Set by Richard Osterlind heard alot about it, but can't tell you how it is though.
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rgranville Elite user Boston area 463 Posts |
If you're just starting out in mentalism, you should get Annemann's Practical Mental Magic and Corinda's 13 Steps to Mentalism. Yes, those are books, the bibles of mentalism. This is where you should start.
If you're adamant about videos, Max Maven's VideoMind series is top-notch. Richard Osterlind's Mind Mysteries series is top-notch. The Desert Brainstorm Series by the Arizona 6 1/2 is top-notch. |
Coolmagic New user My mom... 67 Posts |
There is a new DVD which is AWESOME. MIND STUNT by Patrik Kuffs pretty nice routine that you can do close-up , stand up and even stage. Differents effects than the other mentalist.
There is also the Osterlind DVD that I recommend. Hope it can help you! VCM |
trickiewillie Regular user Virginia 128 Posts |
Max Maven's series is excellent, for the reasons stated above. To see some other, different performance styles (Max Maven is definitely one of a kind) Lee Earle's "Syzygy" series of videos (www.lee-earle.com) is very good. Also, the Desert Brainstorm series. Both series have strong, not too difficult-to-do mentalism but may be out of print. Larry Becker has a two-volume set of videos/DVDs that are good but not really beginner material. For more advanced work, Bob Cassidy's Mental Miracles is outstanding.
Because performance is so important to mentalism, it's important that you see as many different styles of presentation as you can so you don't simply copy one performer. Beginning performers have a tendency to copy the presentations and styles of other performers. If you can get only one video, make it one of Max Maven's. But you definitely don't want to copy Max Maven's style - not because he's bad (he's excellent) but because he is so unique. |
Sven Rygh Inner circle Oslo, Norway. 1945 Posts |
I second rgranville in advising Korinda and Annemann.
These two books are the basic for mentalism. If you in addition spend a few bucks on Osterlinds' Maging Magic Real, you should be well off and have a lot to work with for a long time. NB Making Magic Real is NOT a book on magic or mentalism, but comes foreward with some incredibly important philosophy. Adopting and practicing Richard Osterlind's advises in MMR will make you stand out compared with others. Good luck Sven
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Richard Osterlind V.I.P. 2213 Posts |
Blackwell,
Watching DVD's of different performers is great, but let me give you the advice that I would take if I were starting out all over again. I would look at movies and TV specials (and read books) where actors play the parts of psychics. I would detirmine in my mind what powers I would want and how I would act if I truly had those powers. Then I would go about trying to duplicate those abilities using whatever means I could come up with. Just my 2 cents worth. Richard |
Blackwell33 New user Ft. Huachuca, Az 11 Posts |
Thanks guys! I've been into magic for several months now and learned a ton from this forum. I've never had an interest in mentalism until recently. The more I read, the more I got interested. So I wanted to dig deeper and of course I ended up with this thread. I have "13 Steps to Mentalism" on order and I'm thinking of getting Osterlind's DVD series. I've heard a lot of great things about it. Thanks for the help and pointing me in the right direction..
Blackwell
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WilliamWHolcomb Special user Twinsburg, Ohio 533 Posts |
Blackwell,
I find myself in the same situation you are in. I've been into magic for a while but only recently developed a desire to explore mentalism. 13 Steps is a great work, as is Mind, Myth, and Magick. A fellow magician friend tweaked my interest and it's getting stronger every day! As for the original question, Bob Cassidy has some PDF e-books out that I hear raves about! That's my next purchase - then onto some more DVDs such as Osterlind and Mavin. Cheers!
William Holcomb
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Blackwell33 New user Ft. Huachuca, Az 11 Posts |
Thanks a lot, Holcomb. I looked up Bob Cassidy's e-books on google and was very interested. How soon do you plan on purchasing these? They seem a bit pricy for me right now for a download, but if the material is usefull then they are priceless. Maybe post a review? Or direct me to a previous review? Thanks a lot.. you have spurred my interest now..
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Decomposed Eternal Order High Desert 12059 Posts |
How about Larry Becker's Mental Masterpiece DVD?
Any comments? Thanks Wayne
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phantomace Special user 651 Posts |
Larry's stuff is GREAT! Also recommend Bob Casidy, Mark Strivings(GREAT matketed effects!) and Ted Lesley.
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hmk New user uk 68 Posts |
For someone starting out there is very little aimed at the beginner.probably better re-reading the classics and going through the forum archive.
good luck. hmk |
landmark Inner circle within a triangle 5194 Posts |
Dave Eldridge has a DVD out called FundaMentalism which, as I understand it, is aimed at the newcomer to mentalism. I have not seen the DVD, but Dave is a frequent poster here, and I'm sure can enlighten you further as to whether this might be suitable for you.
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jlevey Inner circle Montreal, Quebec, Canada 2076 Posts |
Pure Effect and Absolute Magic by Derren Brown will give you lots of food for thought on the approach and mind set of a mentalist.
Jamy Ian Swiss writes a chapter in his recent release, Shattering Illusions,that is not very positive towards mentalists, but again worthy of deep inner reflection. Ken Weber has recently come out with an inside look at stage performances of both magicians and mentalists. Although I have not read Ken's book yet, the reviews are very positive and I plan to purchase it next, along with Osterlind's Volume One --which I hear is an excellent tool for both beginner and advanced --a wonderful chance to learn from a pro in the area of stage performance and audience relationship building. Barrie Richardson's Theatre of the Mind has some strong, yet simple to apply effects and I like his warm and thoughtful, respectful approach towards his audience. I understand that Ted Lesley is a great guru in the field of Mentalism, and I would like to know if he has produced his stage show on video so that I can benefit from seeing and learning from his presentations and unique rapport with his audiences. Kenton Knepper (www.wonderwizards.com) is yet another controversial, yet highly regarded performer and teacher in linguistic communication. His Wonder Words series, though costly, is now on CD and available. Eugene Burger, I understand, has much depth and much to teach. I too am very new to the field of mentalism (but not to stage presentations) and have a lot to learn about what other top resources exist and where to find them. Therefore, I will continue to follow this thread for advise.
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Samuel Catoe Inner circle South Carolina 1268 Posts |
Here are a few recommendations for the learning mentalist.
Video/DVD: Larry Becker's Mental Masterpieces and Standing Ovations Bob Cassidy's Mental Masterpieces Mind Stunts by Patrik Kuffs Richard Osterlind's set Max Maven's set Books/Ebooks: The Art of Mentalism by Bob Cassidy Making Magic Real by Richard Osterlind (ebook) Stunners Plus by Larry Becker Mentalism Inc. by Chuck Hickok Jinx by Annemann 13 Steps by Corinda Tarbell series Theater of the Mind by Barrie Richardson Paramiracles by Ted Lesley There is one more section that anyone who wants to be a mentalist should study. Performance art/acting. This will help you far more than knowing how to perform one hundred different experiments ever will. Just my opinion though. Samuel
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