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DekEl Inner circle Creates MindTricks. Has exactly: 1172 Posts |
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On 2011-08-06 16:55, mastermindreader wrote: Quote:
We all are a spoke in the wheel , the wheel keeps on moving and the spoke has to be replaced when its time is over , the law of life I literally laughed out loud reading these posts (and Bob's response). "hot, appealing" LOL I cannot stop chuckling. I apologize, magicboymagic, if I come across as rude, but with all sincerity, I can say that this is the best laugh I've had all week.
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Khal New user 27 Posts |
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On 2002-05-14 12:27, A l a I n B e ll o n wrote: Derren Brown's stage show was shown on TV and was hugely popular. |
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magicboymagic New user 24 Posts |
Agree with khal .. derren brown is a master mind and amazing showman .. I hope, he comes to the Café for one day to put people like lior & his clones in line ))) lol ..
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Xiqual Inner circle Upper left quadrant 4935 Posts |
Ahem,
magicboymagic, Z generation, Lior designed effects for Derren Brown's show as did many of his errrrrr, "clones" Not much more to say about your cred than that eh. James ps I do love that Alain Bellon's statement was as wrong as could be regarding the stage. To quote Baron Frankenstein "IT"S ALIVE, ALIVE" Quote: On 2011-08-06 19:07, magicboymagic wrote:
Still with the Chinese circus
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DrTodd Inner circle 1976 Posts |
The stage is not dead...Derren Brown repeatedly sells out theatres of 2500 people and has a steady run of shows on the West End. I have seen him twice in Ipswich at the Regent theatre. This is a relatively small market town in Suffolk and has a good draw from the surrounding area, but when the theatre is full and he walks on stage, the crowd reaction is quite remarkable. There is a roar of cheers and people stand up before he actually does anything.
Having said that, there are many performers doing great stuff that moves beyond the Brown approach, mixing in different themes, emotions and styles in ways that suggest to me mentalism is doing very well indeed. And stage mentalism as well....my own experience of taking my shows to many theatres in the UK is a fair barometer IMHO... |
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Jon_Thompson Inner circle Darkest Cheshire 2404 Posts |
History shows us that art movements, including the mystery arts, are defined not by the establishment but by their avant garde. But that doesn't mean constant and confusing revolution. The impressionists didn't abandon painting, for example. They took skill in what they already knew and used it to explore new directions in painting.
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DrTodd Inner circle 1976 Posts |
I think Simon Kempner and Dee Christopher are doing some great stuff, and I love the way Anthony Jacquin combines hypnosis and mentalism...
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Pakar Ilusi Inner circle 5777 Posts |
I think it is simply by the fact that every 20 to 30 years or so, the new "viewing public" changes.
So what was really old becomes new again, albeit in different "clothes". Just look at music trends. I do believe Mentalism is poised for a huge comeback especially with all the "innerself" New Age movement (see "The Secret" etc..) being the rage nowadays. Just my opinion though...
"Dreams aren't a matter of Chance but a matter of Choice." -DC-
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Lior Inner circle 1962 Posts |
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On 2011-08-07 07:35, Pakar Ilusi wrote: Intersting view. I agree Lior
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Shrubsole Inner circle Kent, England 2455 Posts |
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On 2011-08-06 17:00, magicboymagic wrote: Wonderful! Now tell us how we do Cris Angel stuff in a local venue without a TV camera, and a coach load of extras? Nothing wrong with 'Kool' but but our live audiences won't allow us to cheat so obviously.
Winner of the Dumbringer Award for total incompetence. (All years)
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Paul Shirley Inner circle Melbourne, Australia 1206 Posts |
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On 2011-08-07 09:27, Shrubsole wrote: Hahahah Don't forget the eyeliner and nails polish Shrub Gotta wear make up and ripped jeans if you want to be like Criss. Ughh!! |
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Shrubsole Inner circle Kent, England 2455 Posts |
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On 2011-08-07 09:32, Paul Shirley wrote: I only dress like that on weekends I'm not working! Having said that, a bit of power-eyeliner hasn't hurt Max Maven at all.
Winner of the Dumbringer Award for total incompetence. (All years)
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Paul Shirley Inner circle Melbourne, Australia 1206 Posts |
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On 2011-08-07 10:08, Shrubsole wrote: Fair enough... Im not here to judge And no... Hasn't hurt Mr Maven.... but that's probably because he has real talent. |
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Xiqual Inner circle Upper left quadrant 4935 Posts |
Another way to say "He has real talent" is "He works his ass off"
James Quote: On 2011-08-07 10:20, Paul Shirley wrote:
Still with the Chinese circus
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gmeister Inner circle 1588 Posts |
"Those who forget the past are condemned to purchasing it repackaged and at exorbitant prices."
Ah, but the performance of these footnotes to Plato--that's something else for, as Bob Cassidy and others have noted, the play's the thing. And remember . . . I danced before Napoleon. No, Napoleon danced before me. As a matter of fact, he danced 200 years before me. |
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magicboymagic New user 24 Posts |
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On 2011-08-07 09:27, Shrubsole wrote: get on tv instead of complaining like a baby .. whats stopping you ?.. ur limiting beliefs about yourself ???.. |
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DWRackley Inner circle Chattanooga, TN 1909 Posts |
I just scrubbed a FaceBook thread where some kids (20-30 year olds) were telling me how they were taking “my generation’s” stuff into whole new directions that had never been explored before. I laughed at them (typographically speaking).
Part of the arrogance of youth is the idea that they’re doing something new. Ecclesiastes was written long ago, and still there is nothing new under the sun (not even eye shadow and earrings for guys). I do enjoy seeing original expressions of the classics, though. Good luck, Generation Zero! (Remember who opened those doors for you )
...what if I could read your mind?
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Shrubsole Inner circle Kent, England 2455 Posts |
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On 2011-08-07 12:45, magicboymagic wrote: What a stupid reply! We ain't all fame hungry wannabes willing to sell our grandmothers for a spot on TV. and not very well thought out either; there are 1000s of magicians and mentalists just in the UK alone - do you think that every one of those should get a TV spot? How would that work in your world? We have had enough fame hungry wannabes prostituting themselves on Penn and Teller and giving secrets away to fill a lifetime, we don';t want any more thanks. Lots of us here perform LIVE and earn our bread a butter doing so and then along comes someone telling people that we should stop doing that and all become **** on TV using camera tricks and extras. It's quite obvious that you have nothing of any importance to say and seem to be trolling. Learn the basics and then perform live shows to bring in your income and then come back.
Winner of the Dumbringer Award for total incompetence. (All years)
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DekEl Inner circle Creates MindTricks. Has exactly: 1172 Posts |
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On 2011-08-08 01:48, DWRackley wrote: I've recently been thinking about this, and I agree with you, but I'd just phrase it a little differently. Technically there are new things. Light bulbs, computers, for one, and there can be new methods in mentalism, one of which I'm glad to have created. What it comes down to is that there is nothing new symbolically in human life. In other words, while we may not have had cars a thousand years ago, we had horses. We naturally gravitate towards the same types of things, which in turn spur innovation towards creating better versions of those things. Someone might say that a spaceship is new, but they forget that we've been sailing to other lands since almost the beginning of time, and exploring on foot before that. It's the same basic motives that drive us to create things with the same significance for us. What the "kids" you were referring to are missing is that yes, there will always be new and innovative ideas to read minds, but they will all just be alternatives to current, and even ancient, methods. Sure, someone may have a pad that let's you tell what someone is writing on paper, without going near them, but an experienced mentalist of the "older generation" could do some of the same effects with pencil reading or a billet. In the eyes of the audience, whoever has more control over the situation, whoever "knows their stuff" so to speak, is the better performer. Not necessarily the one who uses the high tech toys that the audience never even knows about. The view of the audience will never change. I have a feeling that in 50 years, if mentalism is still around, that the performances will look, to an audience member, exactly the same as today.
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Looch Inner circle Off by 3353 Posts |
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On 2011-08-06 17:00, magicboymagic wrote: But what if some idiot crashes the bike and buckles the wheel, breaking all the other spokes in the process?
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