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Roth Inner circle The 18 5090 Posts |
First I want to make a disclaimer. I did chose to call this item the Roman Relic but it is not made to be used like our original Relic medallion for a "which hand" routine.
That said we have tested using a particular presentation that a lot of guys use with the original Relic, and it does work using that method. The Roman Relic is a psychokenitic coin. It's made to work extremely well with the Darkboard, Hobbs Box, Lillians jewel box etc. It will work with an M-5 magnet etc. If you have both the Roman Sanctum and Roman Relic in the spectators hand they will jiggle around and appear to both be exactly what they are, Roman coins. They are both circa 155 A.D. Marcus Aurelius coins, which are rather common. The Romans were prolific minters. During the reign of Aurelius there were hundreds of thousand of coins minted of the Emperor. In the decades that followed his reign there were "tribute" coins of Marcus Aurelius minted by Emperors, which was a common practice by the Senate to pay tribute to past Emperors Lastly, they come in tiny aged leather pouches and do not come with routines. I will have forums set up for ideas and routine contributions. Roman Relic is a powerful "M" coin. There are no seams, it is a solid piece. Thanks! |
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David Eichler Grammar Host Durham, ME 1780 Posts |
Lovely!
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SilentG180 New user Lancashire, UK 27 Posts |
Very nice, looks 100% the part
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VernonOnCoins Inner circle NYC 1978 Posts |
Perfect
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Wizard of Oz Inner circle Most people wish I didn't have 5150 Posts |
Truly awesome.
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WayneCapps Special user Charleston, SC 769 Posts |
Very nice Rick!!!
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DrTodd Inner circle 1976 Posts |
Very cool...My town of Colchester was founded in 65 AD...and we have Roman ruins throughout the area, as well as mosaics and other artefacts....
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spindoc Regular user 166 Posts |
Ordered.
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DrTodd Inner circle 1976 Posts |
Ditto.
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ssucahyo Inner circle 1954 Posts |
Cool....
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Godzilla Inner circle Tied & Untied Witches on 5316 Posts |
This is waaaay cool...
"If you watch Godzilla backwards, it's about a big ass lizard who helps rebuild a half burnt-down city, then moonwalks back into the ocean"
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afinemesh Inner circle Senseless gibberish that amounts to 2621 Posts |
I'm impressed!
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Dr Spektor Eternal Order Carcanis 10781 Posts |
I'm currently in Lyon and visited the old city and the musee of roman antiquities where there are a ton of ruins and crypts... nice stuff... got me inspired to pick me up this wonderful item....ancient tales of Rome with coins... beware the Plutarchs!!!
"They are lean and athirst!!!!"
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Van Helmont Elite user 488 Posts |
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On 2012-08-28 16:38, Dr Spektor wrote: Homo Sapiens non urinat in ventum! VH
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Al Desmond Inner circle Secret Mountain Lair in Conifer, Co 1511 Posts |
Rick...
This is a great idea for a PSI coin, but I'm wondering... why did you pick such a pitted and porous master coin for your casting (or what ever method you used to recreate the coin... it looks like a cast piece... I'd have to see the edge). Personally speaking, as a collector of ancient Greek and Roman coins, this is like one of the junk pieces they sell on EBay for pennies. Can you explain why you used such a "used" model for the coin? Just wondering? |
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Roth Inner circle The 18 5090 Posts |
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On 2012-08-28 18:10, Al Desmond wrote: Hi Al, I collect Roman coins too I like the distressed look, it gives it more credibility. A very nice well defined Roman coin can cost in the hundreds and I didn't want someone admiring the coin . It does look like a poor speciman of a Roman coin that would be in the very low range price wise, that's why I like it. There's also the question of what I call "credible aqusition" a very beautiful well perserved coin can be very expensive. A low quality Roman coin can be $20 and that's what I like. A coin anyone could have aquired. The coin this was cast from was not a cheap coin That is a very close up picture. When you hold it in your hand its a cool ancient coin. I showed my kids the real coin and our coin and they both said my coin looked "older". Which I thought was funny because I didn't tell them we made that coin a week before I showed it to them, but I was sold at that point. Yes there are very pretty nicely defined Roman coins, and there are very worn and poorly perserved coins. For this product I wanted it to look old and worn. I think the general concensus is "it's cool" If you have a Nero or Caligula I'd be interested |
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Al Desmond Inner circle Secret Mountain Lair in Conifer, Co 1511 Posts |
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If you have a Nero or Caligula I'd be interested I would suggest casting your coin(s) from any of the many bronze sestertius available from the early republic period. Due to the size and the nicer portraits (I suspect Greek celators designed the dies, the Romans were terrible engravers)... this would make for a nice, thick PSI coin. I have some excellent antoninianus, almost uncirculated, antoninianus are large but thin, wouldn't work as well unless you built up the thickness. Another thick ancient Roman coin would be the Republic period "AS." But you probably already know much of this mini-ancient coin lesson. Of course Byzantine era 40 nummi are about the thickest ancient Roman coins you could find. If you are really looking for a Nero or Caligula... consider the provincial coins (colonies). Those coins are usually larger, thicker and cheaper to purchase... and they have a combination of Latin and Greek lettering in the inscriptions and superscriptions. |
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Roth Inner circle The 18 5090 Posts |
Al I appreciate your expertise and knowledge. We've already sold 18 units based on these photos and us "laymen" have no issue with the look. As you said it looks like a low end coin and that's the way we wanted it to.
In hand no one other than a Roman coin collector may ask why the coin is a "low grade" I may take you up on the Greek coin (which I also collect, have a few Athen Owels) but for now I'm very happy with the look of the coins. There are no "seams" and only a collector may notice the difference. Thanks Al! |
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ssucahyo Inner circle 1954 Posts |
I m pretty sure this is great ....all outlaw's items are cool and never looks like a toy.
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Dr Spektor Eternal Order Carcanis 10781 Posts |
Another reason the distressed and destroyed look I think works is that it is harder to spot as a phoney methinks.... a fully preserved minted replica usually looks like a replica... I collect replica coins (see Umberto Eco's Travels in Hyperreality) - and then I go to the trouble to age them anyway....
If a real coin collector came across this and had no access to this forum (which by now reading you are Cursed with the Gift of Knowledge).... the fact it also has SANCTVM on it makes it this weird little coin.... they may say "never seen it" = I believe the presentation is that one doesn't claim anything pre se...just "got this at this old weird shop in Tangiers... it had a strange story attached to it...(fill in)... so I had to have it!" IMHO
"They are lean and athirst!!!!"
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