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RobertSmith
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Have great content. Video and pictures are the most looked at things on facebook.

If you take pictures with people at your shows, hand them a card with a QR code and your facebook link on it for them to post and tag the picture.

Otherwise I say just have solid content and tell all your friends. If your content is solid they'll share it with their friends.
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On 2012-10-02 15:54, RobertSmith wrote:
Have great content. Video and pictures are the most looked at things on facebook.

If you take pictures with people at your shows, hand them a card with a QR code and your facebook link on it for them to post and tag the picture.

Otherwise I say just have solid content and tell all your friends. If your content is solid they'll share it with their friends.


Robert, I thought I had sent you a FB message a while back but apparently it went to Dan for some reason HAHA. Anyway, I have been working on some solid projects with FB design and marketing. I think you would probably LOVE to see what I've been doing and how it could help magicians. Especially those who sell products or do public gigs. Hit me up.
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Thanks for the love/likes!
Pizpor
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On 2012-09-30 15:33, curtgunz wrote:
Does anyone else want in on the fun?


I don't have a 'like' button, but I wouldnt mind being friends.
http://www.facebook.com/pizpor

Hope to hear from you.
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Im your friend Pizpor.....please hire me. Smile
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LOL! !

Do you do birthday parties? cause I don't.
I'll send those gigs your way ;-)
Al Angello
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Decomposed is right fan's are far more important than friends on facebook.
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Well we also muist clarify what we mean by a fan. A peroper fan is one that is a lay person who is a decision maker and has the power and the possible desire to hire you directly for an event in the market/s you work. THOSE are the fans you want on your fan page.

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On 2012-09-30 15:33, curtgunz wrote:
Does anyone else want in on the fun?


Yes.....I will "like" everyone on here too Smile)

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Ok. Point taken.

But speaking only for me and my personal experience - contrary to the basis of your 'fan' criteria, I get most of my gigs from my 'friends' and friends of those friends. Friends are also decision-makers or can make recommendations to people that seeking entertaInment. I know that the differences between fans and friends has been discussed at length, but I fail to see the distinction. My facebook page is full of photos (of all the photos on there, I've posted only about a dozen. Friends add the rest) and comments. How would it be different if they were 'fans?' Are you guys over thinking this? Are you trying to project some presumed, but unproven, idealized marketing gimmick as the new standard by which we should all strive to attain? Can you back up that there is a distinct advantage to having fans versus friends?

I'm just saying it works for me, and I won't presume to speak for your experience. But I'm pretty much a non-conformist all the way around.
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So you get so much work from your friends on facebook that you don't need any stinken fan page.

If you can't see past your nose please don't share it with us.
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Blair Marshall
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Actually Al, you should have a Fan/Business Page even if your business comes from "friends", as Facebook now frowns on promotion of any kind for your business on your personal page. And, of course this is subject to THEIR interpretation.

So even with "friends" whom you may wish to "promote" to (soft sell), it is best done through your Fan/Business page, or special "event" invites. Your Fan/Business page is where tagged show photos, testimonials etc. should go or be moved to.

Yes, some folks still use their personal page for their business but they run the risk of having their page shut down.

Blair
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Thanks for the tip Blair I never do any sort of advertising on my personal page, and I do nothing but promote myself on my fan page.

Blair
Are you putting all of those large audience shots that you've been posting on facebook on your fan page too? They are some impressive shots.
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Blair Marshall
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Al, I think if you look again you will find they are ONLY on my Fan/Business page. I do let the occasional business photo/posting on about my magic on my personal page but I try to be careful as to volume of it. My short Santa video is currently up on my personal page, but only for the moment, it will "disappear" in the near future.

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On 2012-10-17 17:35, Blair Marshall wrote:
Actually Al, you should have a Fan/Business Page even if your business comes from "friends", as Facebook now frowns on promotion of any kind for your business on your personal page. And, of course this is subject to THEIR interpretation.

So even with "friends" whom you may wish to "promote" to (soft sell), it is best done through your Fan/Business page, or special "event" invites. Your Fan/Business page is where tagged show photos, testimonials etc. should go or be moved to.

Yes, some folks still use their personal page for their business but they run the risk of having their page shut down.

Blair


Would it be possible to provide a link to where Facebook lists this information?

Thanks
Blair Marshall
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Facebook Terms, Section 4....." Item 4.You will not use your personal timeline for your own commercial gain."

http://www.facebook.com/legal/terms

Here is another Facebook link with their description of personal vs. pages (business/fan)

http://www.facebook.com/help/281592001947683/

You have to "open" the personal versus pages section

I also found this author interesting..

http://www.socialmediahound.com/2010/02/......profile/

Blair
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That's great. Thanks.

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On 2012-10-17 23:44, Blair Marshall wrote:
Al, I think if you look again you will find they are ONLY on my Fan/Business page. I do let the occasional business photo/posting on about my magic on my personal page but I try to be careful as to volume of it. My short Santa video is currently up on my personal page, but only for the moment, it will "disappear" in the near future.

Bair


Uh ohh. Heck I see so much blatant advertising on personal page it aint funny. It seems most performer's fan page just sits there. All the interaction is on the personal pages.

Okay not blatant but is is pretty obvious. I don't see spam or a bunch of websites but appearing here or there, tickets here etc. ALl on personal pages. I jump right in and do it to. Only thing I see FB cracking down on is friends. I have been warned once. I stop adding friends unless I get a request. I don't send out friend request though.

I think FB is just one marketing tool. I still get my gigs from other places however. I have twitter but seldom use it. I Have over 5000 followers for whatever that is worth. I am sort of popular but not rich. Smile Since the economy tanked I get some gigs. Smile I have been on TV a lot but not just performing. Some has been with the criminal justice system. TV is good but Ive only been in one movie and they would not let me say a word. I am still happy about that. Think I will stop now, its good to vent. Smile
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