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Nice article:

The Brain Retroactively Edits Conscious Experience

Up to a half-second after an object disappears from view, the brain can "edit" the experience to retain that object, a new study from France shows.
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On 2013-02-12 13:05, L Trunk wrote:
Another article:

after reading the article and watching the video... My theory is more supported. I think we as magicians don't use our gazes and such... we don't misdirect... we abuse the cognitive schemata of people...

as an example:

when we do a fake transfer... we abuse their schema of puttinga ball in the other hand. When we fake load a cup we abuse the schema of loading a cup...
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And we can create new schema by way of demonstration -- using a "Pattern of Performance" to establish "normal" actions that we can later abuse.
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I think the experimenters are making a mistake.

First off, they are not magicians.

The thing I object to is the statement that facial expression and eye motion have nothing to do with a move.

My point here is that the move is powerful in and of itself. My point is that the use of facial expression and and use of the eyes AID in the deception. It is not the deception. I make movies of moves without my face in the shot. Works fine. Here is another statemet that appeared in the article. Someone said, "It looks just like ..." The point is that, while they were taken in, they did not see reality that a magician can create. Many magicians hang their hat on, "It looks exactly like you put a coin in the other hand." This falls short of, "The coin disapeared from his hand and I have no idea of whre it went?

In addition, the articles are somewhat troubling in treating the audience like some fixed thing. I get the feeling they are saying, "If you make it look like this they will see you did that." Why is it then, if you do a vanish move for anybody on the street and show the coin gone, they will immediately say, "It is in the other hand." The experiment did not seem to show knowledge that various people react in differnt ways. As magicians, we must prepare for many odd situations some people doing an experiment will not do. You know, something like spilling their Grashopper on your closeup pad or grabbing your cigarette thru coin that was lapped. (seen it happen)

On the other hand, I think the articles are right on in when they talk about the built in machinery in the mind that process the data after real world events are observed. That is how I interpret what they said.

Just my thoughts.

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