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Bill Hegbli Eternal Order Fort Wayne, Indiana 22797 Posts 
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Classic clothing never changes for men. Go to a men's store and ask the clerk for their classic section, they will take you to clothing classically cut. I don't know what to say, as I don't see a photo of you with the cloths you are talking about. It may be you have a long rise, and are wearing "off the rack" clothing. If so, that would account for the lower waist line. I know most slacks today are cut with lower waistlines, that does not make it proper though.
I guess every human is different, and if your belly button is unusually high, then of course it would not pertain to you. As for me, my belly button is about 2 inches above the top of my hip bone. Hips help keep your pants up, so the don't fall off. Again, I am speaking about proper dress for appearing on stage in front of an audience. Every day where is much different, even if they are not jeans. As a professional performer, it should be kept in mind that what ever clothing one choses to wear during their act, it should be part of your image, therefore either the style should not change over time. People will recognize the performer as part of his personality. Of course if your act totally changes, then changing your attire would also be okay. As in all new show, therefore new clothing. Also character can be considered, although I dress more "up" then most. I like a tux and an pressed shirt and tie. |
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mrunge Inner circle Charleston, SC 3716 Posts
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On 2013-04-12 20:45, manal wrote: I had that same picture in mind. Fred Mertz or Otis Campbell. With either look, it's "classic." Exactly the look I'd want to go for. I've also got a bridge for sale!!! Mark. 
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Alexander Wells Veteran user 311 Posts
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Men's clothing styles do change over time. Yes, classic styles do endure but the 'rules' are not as rigid as Bill is suggesting. High waisted trousers are perfect with a 3 piece suit but can look strange in a more casual context. Really the height of your waistband depends on a lot of factors.
Here's an answer given by Simon Crompton, a well respected men's style (not men's fashion) blogger. His answer is like most sensible answers "It depends..." http://www.permanentstyle.co.uk/2013/07/......Wn_nNUj0 |
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Alan Munro.jpg "View Profile") Inner circle Kentwood, Michigan, USA 5983 Posts
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On Jul 6, 2013, Bill Hegbli wrote: I don't have a birth defect, Bill, I'm just the next step in humanoid evolution. 
If I wore my slacks that high, I'd be singing soprano and be in severe pain. The male version of "camel toe" is not a good look. LOL |
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AGMagic Special user Cailf. 775 Posts
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Going back to the original question...I've been trying to figure that out. I had a waist at one time, but I think it disappeared several years ago. Too much "good living".
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abrell Loyal user Remscheid, Germany 284 Posts
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Every bespoke tailor knows where your waistline is. And the trousers general style will decide where the upper rim of the trousers will be. That has nothing to do with the waist line. Mostly it depends if the trousers are cut and fitted in Italian or English manner. Italian suits are fitted much closer and tighter and look brilliant when you are slim and well trained - the trousers have belts and you should have a waist that has less diameter than the hips. English suits are cut differently. Traditionally the trousers are never worn with belts but with suspenders. And these trousers are much higher. This only looks good when you wear a vest. The advantage is that the trousers are suspended from the shoulders which can look much better. This also offers the possibility for the tailor to shift the optical waist line higher which gives the impression of longer legs. This is clearly visible with tailcoats worn by Fred Astaire. English suits can have much thicker and stiffer fabric. Weather in Great Britain usually is colder and there is more rain. A fabric that is stiffer and a more solid lining hides a topit much better.
Ther is another important detail for magicians. Imagine a standard trouser. Now imagine a style a little bit like a Spanish torero trouser - the waistline gets much higher. These additional 10 cm around your stomach are hidden by a vest. Now these 10 cm under the vest can be used for holders and hidden items. The vest is above the items so they cannot be seen. And the items are not as visible as if they would have been hidden under the vest directly. This is an quite old secret by Charly Eperny - I think he published it 1944. So with any three piece suit it is wise to get some extra fabric for these extra 10 cm. The fabric and additional lining is also useful for all those extra pockets... |
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Ekuth Inner circle Floating above my 1538 Posts
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What Abrell said.
Also, any tailor knows that the waist is NOT measured at the belly button due to anatomical and clothing cut differences as outlined above. The waist is measured 1 to 2 inches above the iliac crest (hipbones). What the OP is referring to is the SECOND measurement used to determine the waist to hip ratio. In a healthy male who is not overweight, they should be roughly equivalent. If the second measurement is larger than the first... you've got a gut. Don't make the mistake of thinking that the salesman at any men's store has the same level of knowledge as the person who actually makes and fits the clothes. This is the reason why the wealthy have their clothes custom made; you *cannot* get a proper fit from standard, store bought clothing. Sizes and variations thereof are simply generalizations based on the median size determined by the manufacturer. And for goodness sake... c-l-o-t-h-e-s.
"All you need is in Fitzkee."
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RS1963 Inner circle 2736 Posts
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On Sep 18, 2012, Bill Hegbli wrote: Some people can't wear suit pants at naval level due to a medical appliance that they must wear. |
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BCS Inner circle 1086 Posts
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I sell menswear, nobody wears their pants at their belly button (right or wrong). In most cases if one does wear their pants that high, a set of braces must be considered. Especially a larger bellied gentleman.
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Azzaro Regular user 107 Posts
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For penny pinchers:
If you down on budget and don't care about ethics you will always find well-designed pants (and vests) in fast fashion online shops. Look for pleated pants as they are usually high-waisted elegant version of dress pants. Order a few sizes (if shipping & returning) is free. Ignore the possibility of environment pollution. Be egoistic. Choose the pants that fit the best around the waistline. Go to a tailor focussed on clothing alterations. They will perfect the lower part of the pants for you for a good price. They might even consider including cheap pockets. As conjuring is supposed to be a handcraft with high technical ability and dexterity you may also try to do it yourself based on youtube tutorials.
Sincerely,
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